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« on: September 24, 2016, 02:29:38 PM »

Cersei Lannister (not incest though)
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2016, 02:33:23 PM »


This is the scariest post I have seen in a long time.

Incest isn't even close to being the worst thing about Cersei Lannister.
It's sad how you fail to understand this character, she's not an evil monster as you think she is.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2016, 03:05:28 PM »


This is the scariest post I have seen in a long time.

Incest isn't even close to being the worst thing about Cersei Lannister.
It's sad how you fail to understand this character, she's not an evil monster as you think she is.

Actually, the fact that she's not a complete monster the way Joffrey and Ramsay obviously were makes her a lot more horrifying to me.
I honestly don't understand why you hate her so much?

Honestly, I like her quite well. She just tries to survive, she's evolving in a hostile universe to women and she manages to survive.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2016, 03:06:34 PM »


Well, yes?

Please tell me what exactly do you dislike about her?
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2016, 04:35:27 PM »


Well, yes?

Please tell me what exactly do you dislike about her?

All right.

The main thing that makes Cersei so uniquely vile and despicable is not really what she does (she does horrible things, sure, but the same could be said of many characters, and she's not quite the worst in that metric), but why and how she does it. She never does anything out altruistic concerns (her "concern" for her children is extremely possessive and therefore fundamentally selfish), or because she's advancing the greatness or anything she believes in, or out of pragmatic self-interest, or even because she's "just evil" like the two previously mentioned. Rather, she just gives in to all the darkest, most evil human instincts: spite, paranoia, pride, envy, cruelty, possessiveness. She's a slave to her emotions, and the emotions she usually feels are the ones a good person should never give in to. This leads her not only to hurt people around her, including people who meant no harm to her whatsoever, but also, very often, to hurt herself. And since she's so prideful and unable to ever question herself, she ends up blaming others for her self-inflicted damage.

tl;dr she's a spiteful, paranoid, self-righteous sadist.

Well, Cersei has been in a universe where she has been treated like sh**t, because in this universe women are being treated like sh**t. She was constantly being raped by her former husband, who beat her.
It is her strong desire of survival (including her children and Jamie as well), and her strong desire of proving this misogynist world she is someone that makes me lover her so much. I don't understand the hatred towards her, she's just trying to survive.
And no, she's not particularly paranoid, it was clearly obvious Margaery was trying to undermine her influence, particularly obvious when her son was constantly telling her "why don't you go back to Casterly Rock?".
She definitely has more balls than all of these useless characters that are basically the Stark family, Sansa being the victim, the father being the "honour honour honour" guy but no problem of ruining her life while he did know how sh**tty her husband was, and Arya who has no role at all except just being an edgy teenager willing to take her revenge. Cersei takes actions, she has more balls than anyone else.
I really love this character, I obviously don't have her life (thanks god), but I managed to understand so much her character, I love her, most underrated character of the show Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2016, 03:51:50 AM »

That's such a weak defense. Almost half major GoT characters have been treated like sh*t at some point or another, and some of them have had it far worse than Cersei. Sure, you can definitely empathize with what she's gone through and understand why this has led them to do what she does, but that doesn't excuse it. If explaining and excusing were the same thing, then this mean you can excuse anyone for anything.
That does excuse what he has done. She killed her husband because she had no choice, she blowed up the "big church" because she had no choice, all the time for surviving and protecting her kids (unfortunately he committed suicide, but not something she wanted it to happen). I'm not surprised you cannot try to understand all the things she did aren't because she's the "evil queen".


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Margaery was an enemy, she wanted to get rid of her, be sent to Casterly Rock, so she reacted swiftly and in the end Margaery was outmanoeuvered.
And what the Starks are trying to survive nicely?
- When Sansa let Ramsay's dogs eat him?
-When Arya made Walder Frey eat his own children?
-When Jon Snow hanged a 14 years old?
Lol lol lol
They are useless, they are not trying to survive, they're just being portrayed as the victims, they don't care at all about survival at all, let me give you some examples: "Honour Honour, I will tell the Kind aren't from him","I break my wedding with the Freys because pure LOVE wooooow". Totally worthless, hopefully Arya will soon die because having to deal with a teenager in crisis is so annoying hehe. And hopefully Jon Snow will die again: "bouhouhouh I was raised as a bastard, look at me, I'm a victim Cry ".

Cersei has more balls than all these Stark characters.
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