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windjammer
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« on: October 02, 2015, 03:01:31 PM »

Bacon King,
Wasn't Chaffetz much more interested by the United states senate rather than gaining influence in the house?
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 03:37:47 PM »

Here is an article that outlines some of the "problems" with the Freedom Caucus demands. It is not just about procedural niceties that they get to cast a vote on legislation framed the way they want it to be allowed by the rules committee, or that legislative proposals need to go through committee first, and pass there, and so forth. There is substance, and procedures, that essentially would shut the government down unless Obama and the Dems bend over and do with the FC wants, like defund Obamacare, and major entitlement reform, and minor little stuff like that. That is basically why the rest of the Pubs need to tell them to take a hike.

My fantasy is for the moderates to state that if the Freedom Caucus does not follow the will of a majority of the caucus, as to both who is the speaker, and what the rules of the road are, and the agenda is, then who is speaker will become largely moot, because they are going to team up with the Dems and run the House by discharge petition, to keep the government functioning, and passing what the Senate is able to pass, while the rest can just spend their time from now on jacking off. Two can go balls to the wall you know. And in this fight, in the end, the ones getting their heads handed to them on a platter will be the Freedom Caucus.

Until the Republican base en masse rises up against a traitorous Establishment that is siding with Democrats and Obama instead of listening to the voters who put them in office.  Then, the ones getting their heads handed to them on a platter will be Establishment Republicans, in primaries across the nation.  And they will deserve it, for violating their mandate.

Splendid. Go for it. Let the voters decide. A good bloodbath might be salubrious for the Pub party (or at least the nation). As Jefferson said, rendering the soil into a more sanguinary state, is sometimes good for the growth of the liberty tree. Unlike Jefferson of course, I hasten to add that my prose here is merely metaphorical. Smiley

The more things continue the way they are going, the more I wonder if a bipartisan coalition to run matters might be best. Let's expand the Blue Dog and Main Street Partnership caucuses, until they reach critical mass!  Oh wait - all those gerrymandered maps across the Fruited Plain, rendering hyper partisan CD's.  Damn! Sad
It's funny how the fact that Gibson, your representative, is a member of the freedom caucus and the main street partnership represents you so well.
- Freedom caucus: your republican bias for everything related to lawsuits, redistricting,...
- Main Street: your political views are moderate and you really despise acts of political terrorism like shutting down the governmemt.

Interesting Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2015, 02:21:28 PM »

Paul Ryan has either signed away most of the powers held by the Speaker, or set himself up for failure when he Freedom Caucus inevitably revolts against him for not giving up those powers
Could you explain please?
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