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windjammer
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« on: May 03, 2014, 04:04:56 AM »

Well, I was saddened to see the last bill being defeated. I would love the Althing to pass the Hate Crime Part, but if we don't have the votes, we don't have the votes.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2014, 08:26:57 AM »

I seriously believe the love of Americans for free speech is disgusting.
No one should be able to disturb a private funeral.

If I recall correctly, Sol, you're gay, aren't you?
You would like the Westboro Church to be able to disturb your own funeral? Seriously?
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2014, 11:05:39 AM »

I seriously believe the love of Americans for free speech is disgusting.
No one should be able to disturb a private funeral.

If I recall correctly, Sol, you're gay, aren't you?
You would like the Westboro Church to be able to disturb your own funeral? Seriously?

I wouldn't like them to, and I am a big fan of their various counter-protesters, but I believe that we shouldn't regulate speech based on how morally depraved it is. Once we start regulating unpopular speech, it opens up a slippery slope to regulating other forms.

You know, in France, you have stricter law regarding freedom of speech, and that doesn't mean we're a fascist country,...
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2014, 11:39:23 AM »

I seriously believe the love of Americans for free speech is disgusting.
No one should be able to disturb a private funeral.

If I recall correctly, Sol, you're gay, aren't you?
You would like the Westboro Church to be able to disturb your own funeral? Seriously?

I wouldn't like them to, and I am a big fan of their various counter-protesters, but I believe that we shouldn't regulate speech based on how morally depraved it is. Once we start regulating unpopular speech, it opens up a slippery slope to regulating other forms.

You know, in France, you have stricter law regarding freedom of speech, and that doesn't mean we're a fascist country,...

Of course. But freedom of speech is still very important- I hold few values higher.
Yes, and freedom of speech will be respected. But is ending homophobia something important too?

I don't understand Americans seriously. The few people who could have problems with that are horrible homophobic, nazis,...
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2014, 12:34:18 PM »

So Sol's amendment is going to pass hmmm. I'm a bit deceived, but not so much. I will of course sign this bill.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2014, 01:13:23 PM »

So basically y'all waited for Brewer to leave so you could pass something we rejected earlier.

At least remove the compromise part of the title if we are going to be honest.
That's not true. I  reintroduced this bill the 4th April 2014. Brewer resigned the 8th April 2014. I was saddened to see this bill being defeated. So I reintroduced this bill without the "Hate Crime Legislation".
But Brewer resigned and Sol was appointed, and then elected. Yes, Sol isn't Brewer, and if right now we have the votes to pass this bill with the Hate Crime Legislation part, let pass this bill with this part.
I have made literally nothing behind the scenes in order to pass this bill. The Althing is just now willing to pass this bill with the Hate Crime Legislation Part.

And yes, don't worry, if this bill passed without changing the name, I would have used my first redraft to change this name. This isn't a Brewer-Cris-Adam compromise anymore, you're right on this point.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2014, 06:14:49 AM »

As the sponsor of this bill, I accept the Governor's redraft.
So the Althing now has to vote on the redraft!
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2014, 06:49:01 AM »

The Midwest must be one of the few places in the world where it's illegal for a business to be open on Sunday and illegal to fire a gay person.
That's not true.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2014, 06:51:36 AM »

Workers should have the right not to work on Sunday. Nothing has been made to forbide Sunday's work.

And LGBT can still be fired, but not because they are gay. I plan to defend the law quickly.

And seriously Deus, don't you have other things to do? You're not legalizing pornography for 5-years-old in the Northeast right now?
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2014, 07:18:54 AM »

I believe the first sentence is clear:
"Any business, school or anyone else seen denying anyone who's LGBT the same rights as others will be subject to fines and lawsuits"



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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 03:37:56 AM »

And seriously Deus, don't you have other things to do? You're not legalizing pornography for 5-years-old in the Northeast right now?

Already done. Grin
I now understand why Deus has so much time to make annoying and false statements in the other regions Wink
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