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Junior Chimp
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« on: May 07, 2021, 12:40:07 AM »

I'm so sick of Dems unilaterally disarming on everything.  It makes the whole country have to cater to completely out of touch people.  They need to gerrymander NY to counteract what is obviously going to happen in TX and FL.

Don't tell me climate change is an existential threat but you're going to give the GOP more power than they are owed based on principles. 
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2021, 01:35:52 PM »

Illinois and Maryland, too. Hopefully gerrymandering is ended by 2030 nationwide, but for this round, there's no point in voluntarily disarming.

Virginia would be another easy one to gerrymander too.  Not sure how this commission will play out but my understanding is that the courts could have the final say and I believe Dems are packing the courts here so theoretically it's possible they could gerrymander the state and they really should.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2021, 07:46:51 PM »

All this does is proves that, indeed, “both sides are the same”.

One party is promoting anti-gerrymandering legislation in Congress, the other is 100% blocking it.


And OP is encouraging Democrats to abandon their principles in order to get unnecessary amounts of power.

The average Democrat is more concerned with forcing America into becoming a one-party state than actual good governance.

This is nonsense and ignores my entire point.  Can you please stop muddying up the thread?  thanks.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2021, 07:50:22 PM »

Illinois and Maryland, too. Hopefully gerrymandering is ended by 2030 nationwide, but for this round, there's no point in voluntarily disarming.

Virginia would be another easy one to gerrymander too.  Not sure how this commission will play out but my understanding is that the courts could have the final say and I believe Dems are packing the courts here so theoretically it's possible they could gerrymander the state and they really should.

Virginia now has really bad geography for the Republicans, since most of their excess votes are logically packed into 2 Appalachia-based districts.  A proportional map of Virginia would ostensibly be a Republican gerrymander, so a commission-drawn plan should naturally overrepresent Democrats.   

Yes.  A fair map under current 2010 population numbers should really be 3 very conservative districts, 5 safe Democratic districts and 3 somewhat competitive districts. 

Under 2020 numbers there could really be 6 safe Democratic districts (4 anchored in Northern Virginia and 2 around Richmond/Virginia Beach).  2 of the safe districts would "only" be +10 Dem or so (outer parts of NOVA) while the safe GOP districts would be 50 margin vote sinks.
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