Explaining Republican Electoral Problem (Using Purely 2012 Election)

[Non Swing Voter]

You guys are missing it, things always swing back and forth every 8 years or so.  Remember the 90's when Bill Clinton won the popular vote twice.  Then remember just 8 years later when Gore won the popular vote.  Then just 8 years after that it swung back to Obama winning the popular vote again.  Current polling shows that Hillary could very well win in 2016, which shows a swing back to Hillary who was Obama's opponent in 2008.  This shows that things are extremely close and have been for decades. 

Besides, the democratic party is just based in big cities and their near in suburbs.  It's not like the Philly, DC, Denver, or Orlando suburbs are located in swing states. 

Plus as the 2012 elections proved to us, things swing back and forth... see, e.g., the massive swing in North Carolina and Indiana from Obama to Romney.  Indeed, Democrats have only won the same states that constitute only about 250 electoral votes 6 elections in a row now... You need a whole 20 more to win the White House in case you were wondering (I did the math myself on a TI-83 no less).

Nor are demographics on democrats side.  Minorities don't vote and any gains seen by democrats in minority votes will automatically and inherently be counteracted by an increase in white votes for Republicans... this is a scientifically proven fact. 

So stop whigging out, it's not like a major political party has every gone extinct, things happen in cycles... always, that's the definition of a cycle.

Yours truly,

Barfbag

[Non Swing Voter]

You guys are missing it, things always swing back and forth every 8 years or so.  Remember the 90's when Bill Clinton won the popular vote twice.  Then remember just 8 years later when Gore won the popular vote.  Then just 8 years after that it swung back to Obama winning the popular vote again.  Current polling shows that Hillary could very well win in 2016, which shows a swing back to Hillary who was Obama's opponent in 2008.  This shows that things are extremely close and have been for decades. 

Besides, the democratic party is just based in big cities and their near in suburbs.  It's not like the Philly, DC, Denver, or Orlando suburbs are located in swing states. 

Plus as the 2012 elections proved to us, things swing back and forth... see, e.g., the massive swing in North Carolina and Indiana from Obama to Romney.  Indeed, Democrats have only won the same states that constitute only about 250 electoral votes 6 elections in a row now... You need a whole 20 more to win the White House in case you were wondering (I did the math myself on a TI-83 no less).

Nor are demographics on democrats side.  Minorities don't vote and any gains seen by democrats in minority votes will automatically and inherently be counteracted by an increase in white votes for Republicans... this is a scientifically proven fact. 

So stop whigging out, it's not like a major political party has every gone extinct, things happen in cycles... always, that's the definition of a cycle.

Yours truly,

Barfbag

Please stop with this stupid rhetoric.

Why do you hate free speech?  Have you rebuked the dozens if not hundreds of posts Barfbag has made calling people "idiots," "stupid," etc.?

Oh and, thanks for thinking half the parodies are about you.  Self absorbed much?

[Non Swing Voter]

Why do you hate free speech?  Have you rebuked the dozens if not hundreds of posts Barfbag has made calling people "idiots," "stupid," etc.?

Oh and, thanks for thinking half the parodies are about you.  Self absorbed much?

Because I say "stop with rhetoric" makes me hate free speech.... OK then. I don't actually recall barfbag calling people idiots or stupid, some of his logic may be very wrong and most of us may not agree with it, but for the most part of what I've observed he's very polite to me and people on this forum, He does not call people "stupid" or "idiots" but he does call them biased, partisan, etc. In fact he seems to be much more polite than you.

The reason I thought they were about me is because of the constant disagreements and rudeness we've experienced with each other. How in the world does that make me self absorbed? I've always disliked selfish people who think only for themselves and always will. I try to respect all people on this forum whether I disagree with them or not, I add people do my buddy list that I disagree or agree with. Just because we don't agree doesn't mean we can't be friends/can't get along. Because of your mock threads and rudeness when it comes to posting, you've almost lost the respect I have for 95% of posters here. You still have a chance of gaining that respect back, but if you want to, you better show some kindness and politeness towards other posters you disagree with.

1) I could care about respect from someone whose opinion is so meaningless.

2) "He does not call people "stupid" or "idiots""  I guess on top of everything, you're a liar too as you were in a thread where I posted several quotes from barfbag calling them "stupid" and "idiots."  Hope this helps, though I think you are beyond help.

[Non Swing Voter]

Why do you hate free speech?  Have you rebuked the dozens if not hundreds of posts Barfbag has made calling people "idiots," "stupid," etc.?

Oh and, thanks for thinking half the parodies are about you.  Self absorbed much?

Because I say "stop with rhetoric" makes me hate free speech.... OK then. I don't actually recall barfbag calling people idiots or stupid, some of his logic may be very wrong and most of us may not agree with it, but for the most part of what I've observed he's very polite to me and people on this forum, He does not call people "stupid" or "idiots" but he does call them biased, partisan, etc. In fact he seems to be much more polite than you.

The reason I thought they were about me is because of the constant disagreements and rudeness we've experienced with each other. How in the world does that make me self absorbed? I've always disliked selfish people who think only for themselves and always will. I try to respect all people on this forum whether I disagree with them or not, I add people do my buddy list that I disagree or agree with. Just because we don't agree doesn't mean we can't be friends/can't get along. Because of your mock threads and rudeness when it comes to posting, you've almost lost the respect I have for 95% of posters here. You still have a chance of gaining that respect back, but if you want to, you better show some kindness and politeness towards other posters you disagree with.

BTW - you are actually a complete liar.  Just minutes before you posted this garbage you quoted another topic with direct quotes from barfbag calling people "idiots" and "stupid."  Guess you can't recall something from 4 minutes earlier.

This is what you wrote just 4 minutes earlier (nice memory):

Quote from: Non Swing Voter on October 12, 2013, 11:24:38 pm


Quote from: Torie on October 12, 2013, 09:53:52 pm

This kind of personal mocking (particularly outside the FC), does not sit well with me. Does the idea that you are being personally cruel, and hurting someone's feelings, occur to you at all here?  Perhaps you might want to just jettison it all. Let your conscience be your guide.


Hurting a grown adults feelings is harsh.  

I suspect you have also harshly rebuked the following posts:

"What you just said was stupid. In fact stupid isn't a good enough word to describe your post."

"I agree children shouldn't have access to firearms and the parents were irresponsible, but to nationalize this as the left did with Trayvon Martin is absurd. His parents are idiots."

"You made an unintelligent remark which made no sense..."

These were all made by Barfbag by the way.  I suspect you'll be right on these.  Thanks!

Have you ever seen the comments by Lief and Opebo? They are much worse than some of Barfbag's I can tell you that.

[Non Swing Voter]

Why do you hate free speech?  Have you rebuked the dozens if not hundreds of posts Barfbag has made calling people "idiots," "stupid," etc.?

Oh and, thanks for thinking half the parodies are about you.  Self absorbed much?

Because I say "stop with rhetoric" makes me hate free speech.... OK then. I don't actually recall barfbag calling people idiots or stupid, some of his logic may be very wrong and most of us may not agree with it, but for the most part of what I've observed he's very polite to me and people on this forum, He does not call people "stupid" or "idiots" but he does call them biased, partisan, etc. In fact he seems to be much more polite than you.

The reason I thought they were about me is because of the constant disagreements and rudeness we've experienced with each other. How in the world does that make me self absorbed? I've always disliked selfish people who think only for themselves and always will. I try to respect all people on this forum whether I disagree with them or not, I add people do my buddy list that I disagree or agree with. Just because we don't agree doesn't mean we can't be friends/can't get along. Because of your mock threads and rudeness when it comes to posting, you've almost lost the respect I have for 95% of posters here. You still have a chance of gaining that respect back, but if you want to, you better show some kindness and politeness towards other posters you disagree with.

Didn't read the rest of your post, now I remember you.  You're the guy who constantly posts in my threads who I completely ignore.  Gotcha.  Yeah you can tell I barely post here.  People who flat out lie (like when you said barfbag has never called someone stupid or an idiot just minutes after viewing the direct quotes I posted) are not the type of people whose respect I care in any way about gaining.  This is probably why I don't post much (people like you and barfbag) who are quick to write extremely nasty and vitriolic posts but then get offended when someone creates a parody thread.  Have a blessed day.