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ProudModerate2
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« on: July 04, 2016, 01:30:21 PM »

What a disgrace. The level of hatred for this president is unpresented. So sad.

I will agree that this is true, and that it is, indeed, racism that drives this.  We really have gotten to the place where many conservatives believe in Alex Jones-ian alternative universes.

Something happened to me yesterday that really shook me.  I was in church (an extremely conservative denomination, to be sure) and I was talking to a friend (whom I think highly of), who, quite casually, began talking how Obama and "the Government" are buying up closed Walmart stores and converting them into "concentration camps".  He stated that folks meet high resistance when they poke around at these "facilities".  In the midst of our conversation, another friend (whom I also think highly of) heard what he was talking about and calmly agreed.  

Neither one of these guys are idiots.  One is a native Southerner, but the other is a New Jersey native, so this is not a regional thing.  I'm sure they both believe Obama's a Muslim; that seems to be a rather tame belief nowadays, compared to things like this.  But the degree to which folks are willing to believe in alternate universes uncritically, without any kind of examination for factuality, is getting frightening.  Liberals do a degree of this as well, but, honestly, they've got nothing on these folks.  

So I confess my dilemma on Trump.  On a checklist of issues (trade, interventionism, entangling alliances, immigration) I agree with him, moreso than with any other candidate of either party.  On the other hand, Trump's contribution to the "birther" movement has never been a strong point with me, and at some point, I'd like the candidate of my choice to stop going over the top with rhetoric.  I believe that Donald Trump is a rational man, and I believe that he does what he does to maintain support; if he had run a "normal" campaign, he'd have been lost in the crowd.  But I'd like a modicum of wonkishness and "Presidentiality" in my chosen candidate, and while I'd vote for Trump today if the election were now, I wouldn't ask anyone else to at this point.

Wow.
You have some very strange people who attend your church.
Did he say what these Walmart-converted-concentration-camps were for ?
Are they supposedly in operation now, meaning that they are operating and holding people in them today ?
Who is the Gov/Obama putting in these camps (who is targeted) ?

What a very, very strange story.
Something like this would make my head spin for days.
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ProudModerate2
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2016, 02:02:46 PM »

This was actually a conspiracy theory popularized a year or so ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

The TX Governor was even dumb enough to think it was necessary to "monitor" the activities... even he bought into the conspiracy at least a little.

Ahhh ... OK.
I remember "that one." I just did not know that it also included vacant (recently closed) Walmart stores in that conspiracy.

The Wikipedia page also says that :
A survey of registered Republicans by Public Policy Polling in May 2015, found that 32% thought that "the Government is trying to take over Texas", and that half of all Tea Party supporters are concerned with an imminent Texas invasion.

I'm curious if (educated) Republicans feel ashamed when they hear that a scary amount (percentage) of their own, honestly believe in such stupid conspiracy theories.
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