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Question: Do Black Lives Matter or Do All Lives Matter?
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Black Lives Matter
 
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White Lives Matter
 
#3
All Lives Matter
 
#4
No Lives Matter
 
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bedstuy
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« on: December 07, 2015, 01:20:08 PM »

The funny thing is that both sides of this debate, whether we say "All lives matter," or "Black lives matter," we can agree on one thing, black lives don't matter.  Because, regardless of what you say you believe, actions speak louder than words.  Our society acts like black lives don't matter, including liberals, including black people, we're all guilty of that.

The black lives matter movement is purely interested in black lives if they were ended by police or white people.  It's about the problem of white people killing black people and police killing black people, it explicitly is not about black lives.  And, it's not even about black people being unjustly killed by police because they champion people like Michael Brown and Kimani Gray. 

It is true that there is a problem of police misconduct, police racism and profiling.  But, I think anyone who cares about black lives needs to acknowledge that problem pales in comparison to the underlying social and cultural decay in black communities that leads blacks to commit crimes at a far higher rate.  And, you can't understand the different experience of blacks and whites with police purely from a racial perspective. 

I live in New York City.  Whites are 45% of the population and commit 1% of the shootings.  Blacks are 25% and commit 75% of the shootings.  If you ignore those kinds of statistics in comparing the experience of blacks and whites with police, you're putting your head in the sand.  And, that goes back to the black lives don't matter point.  In NYC, whites are 3% of the murder victims while blacks are 62%.  Nobody in the left-wing or right-wing cares because those dead black people can't fuel a black  victimhood or "white people are evil" narrative.
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bedstuy
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2015, 08:18:22 PM »

But, I think anyone who cares about black lives needs to acknowledge that problem pales in comparison to the underlying social and cultural decay in black communities that leads blacks to commit crimes at a far higher rate. 

Gee, it's almost like if you were to look behind the curtain of BLM and were listening to black people and what they have to say directly, you would find them discussing this exact thing in-depth.

As they have been for 35+ years.

Fair point.  I think a lot of the BLM people are "leftist activist" agitators who want to speak for black people, but don't represent anyone.  I'm generalizing somewhat to be sure and I'll bet there are people within the BLM umbrella who aren't as bad as the image.
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