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bedstuy
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« on: July 19, 2014, 08:09:40 PM »

Probably the worst Western leader, although Obama certainly gives him a run for his money in that regard.
David Cameron? Tony Abbott? Stephen Harper? Mariano Rajoy?

With the exception of Cameron, none of those people are actively pushing the world toward a second Cold War, something that cannot be said of Obama.
How dare that Obama force Russia to invade and back an insurgency in a sovereign nation to maintain its sphere of influence!

Are you kidding me right now?

How dare Russia be upset with two decades of encirclement by the United States! We all know the United States would be absolutely and totally okay if a hostile state transformed Mexico and Canada into its satellites, pointed missiles at us, and placed defense systems in those countries as a "precautionary" measure, right?

The idea that Russia is 100 percent to blame for the situation in Ukraine is ludicrous. But of course, doing your own research on crucial foreign policy debates requires something more than beating your chest and blindly following the line propagated by the administration and it's friends in the media, some of which also happen to be intricately involved in the military-industrial complex. (GE, for example)

Just because you're a commi pinko doesn't mean you need to sympathize with Russia.  So much of this whole situation predicated on the fact that Russia is ruled by a James Bond villain.  Sometimes doing your own research actually leaves you with less information if you're looking with such a blatant anti-American bias.  We all need to realize that the only coherent thing Ronald Reagan ever said was that Russia is an evil empire.  It was during the Tsars, during the Soviet Period and it is again under Putin. 

If you didn't have a conspiracy theorist mind, you would see that GE has no reason to war-monger about Russia and nobody besides Russia wants to pick a beef over Ukraine.  Russia just keeps flagrantly and aggressively invading the sovereignty of its neighbors for no good reason.  We in the West just want to find some way to keep the status quo because Russia is a huge supplier of gas and natural resources to Europe.  How does it help GE to inflame a potential crisis in Europe?
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bedstuy
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2014, 11:04:18 AM »

Probably the worst Western leader, although Obama certainly gives him a run for his money in that regard.
David Cameron? Tony Abbott? Stephen Harper? Mariano Rajoy?

With the exception of Cameron, none of those people are actively pushing the world toward a second Cold War, something that cannot be said of Obama.
How dare that Obama force Russia to invade and back an insurgency in a sovereign nation to maintain its sphere of influence!

Are you kidding me right now?

How dare Russia be upset with two decades of encirclement by the United States! We all know the United States would be absolutely and totally okay if a hostile state transformed Mexico and Canada into its satellites, pointed missiles at us, and placed defense systems in those countries as a "precautionary" measure, right?

The idea that Russia is 100 percent to blame for the situation in Ukraine is ludicrous. But of course, doing your own research on crucial foreign policy debates requires something more than beating your chest and blindly following the line propagated by the administration and it's friends in the media, some of which also happen to be intricately involved in the military-industrial complex. (GE, for example)

Just because you're a commi pinko doesn't mean you need to sympathize with Russia.  So much of this whole situation predicated on the fact that Russia is ruled by a James Bond villain.  Sometimes doing your own research actually leaves you with less information if you're looking with such a blatant anti-American bias.  We all need to realize that the only coherent thing Ronald Reagan ever said was that Russia is an evil empire.  It was during the Tsars, during the Soviet Period and it is again under Putin. 

If you didn't have a conspiracy theorist mind, you would see that GE has no reason to war-monger about Russia and nobody besides Russia wants to pick a beef over Ukraine.  Russia just keeps flagrantly and aggressively invading the sovereignty of its neighbors for no good reason.  We in the West just want to find some way to keep the status quo because Russia is a huge supplier of gas and natural resources to Europe.  How does it help GE to inflame a potential crisis in Europe?

I love how you ignored the actual content of my post to launch a tirade about Communism and "anti-American bias" that would make Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan proud, bizarre assertions of an entire nation of people being an "evil empire" included. (As if "evil" is a concept that has any meaning when it comes to discussing the foreign policy of a nation that supported right-wing death squads, coups against elected (progressive) governments, and nearly wiping out mankind in a nuclear war)


Well, you seem anti-American to me and I think I remember you being a Marxist Socialist of some sort. 

Of course, not everyone in Russia is evil.  Russia is a huge diverse  country and it's an amazing place in many ways.  But sometimes, you just have to look at the game tape, so to speak.  Look at what Russia has done in the past 100 years.  Horrible war crimes, treating people like expendable natural resources, genocides, corruption, a certain autocratic political structure.  There's continuity from the Tsars, to the Soviets to Putin.  It's not so much the people of Russia, as it is the political structure and corrupt elite that oppresses them. 

I agree that the United States isn't perfect.  But, you have to put some of those things you listed in a proper context.  Often what the CIA did was in response to the Soviet pattern of using "progressive" leftist governments as a stalking horse for a communist takeover.  If you line up US misdeeds against Russia misdeeds in the past century, the US is better by a country mile.
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