Christie vetoes reduction in permitted size of ammunition magazines

[bedstuy]

If only Camden, NJ had more guns, then they wouldn't have crime any more

We just need to tell those crooks they can't have any guns.  Then, you know, they just won't!

I tend to be more on the pro-gun freedom side of the argument, but we do need to fairly address the other side. The argument is that, by making guns more difficult to obtain, the number of criminals receiving guns would be reduced.

You think most criminals in Camden purchased their firearms in accordance with NJ's current gun laws?

The criminals aren't hand-crafting their own guns so clearly the legal market affects the black market. 

[bedstuy]

Of what use are laws? Criminals are just going to break them anyway.

Most laws don't infringe on the RIGHTS of law-abiding citizens because of the wrong actions of a few.

Just going on about "rights" because they were included in a document several centuries ago doesn't help your argument.

A document that was supposed to outline basic rights that no future government or movement could infringe upon?  I'll use that all day long.

That doesn't mean every single "right" outlined in the 18th century is practical (or desirable) in modern society. Especially when it's a particularly odd right unlike that which any other first world society finds reasonable. Sure, that alone isn't an argument either, but you might want to actually consider why there are rational reasons against what you consider to be a cherished right.

Switzerland and Israel aren't first-world countries?

I don't know about Switzerland.  But, if America had the gun control policies of Israel, gun control advocates would be beyond elated.  They have a much stronger system of regulation and responsibility in Israel.