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bedstuy
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« on: December 05, 2013, 08:55:34 PM »

This is another Presidenting-while-black/foreign charge.

Obama isn't descended from Miles Standish.  Get over it. 
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2013, 09:44:58 PM »

This is another Presidenting-while-black/foreign charge.

Obama isn't descended from Miles Standish
.  Get over it. 


cite?

OK, I admit it, Obama isn't just a secret Muslim, he's also a secret pilgrim.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2013, 09:59:01 PM »

This is another Presidenting-while-black/foreign charge.

Obama isn't descended from Miles Standish.  Get over it. 


Considering Obama's mother's ancestry, it's very possible he is descended from Miles Standish, and he's almost certainly descended from some Mayflower passengers.

There's not much of a point to the story itself beyond continuing to point out that White House PR is incompetent beyond belief (or some other parts of the administration Tongue). No one gives a sh**t whether or not Obama lived with/met his uncle; but you'd expect a truthful answer to be given on the topic by the White House PR department.

I think you understand my point.  Many people don't like Obama because of his perceived foreignness and blackness.  That's why people question his heritage and turn any relation with Kenya or black folks into a scandal.   His white ancestors don't matter at all.  You know the rule in America, we have the one drop rule.  One drop of Kenyan/Muslim/black blood and you're a negro.  That's what this whole thing is about, coded racism and xenophobia.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2013, 10:25:28 PM »

This is another Presidenting-while-black/foreign charge.

Obama isn't descended from Miles Standish.  Get over it. 


Considering Obama's mother's ancestry, it's very possible he is descended from Miles Standish, and he's almost certainly descended from some Mayflower passengers.

There's not much of a point to the story itself beyond continuing to point out that White House PR is incompetent beyond belief (or some other parts of the administration Tongue). No one gives a sh**t whether or not Obama lived with/met his uncle; but you'd expect a truthful answer to be given on the topic by the White House PR department.

I think you understand my point. Many people don't like Obama because of his perceived foreignness and blackness.  That's why people question his heritage and turn any relation with Kenya or black folks into a scandal.   His white ancestors don't matter at all.

This is all true on the face of it, but a lot of Obama proponents significantly overestimate the effect that race has on opposition to Obama's policies. The opposition to a white Democratic President would've scarcely been any less enthusiastic. I'll agree with you that the sort of person who cares deeply about this specific controversy might be more likely to disapprove of Obama on account of race or ethnicity because of its nature, but for your average Republican/Fox News viewer/conservative, this just blends in with a general pattern of 'Obama lied about Obamacare/other stuff' without being too significant in and of itself.

  You know the rule in America, we have the one drop rule.  One drop of Kenyan/Muslim/black blood and you're a negro.

In America, it's all about how you look. People who are 1/2-black or 1/4-black look like black people, usually, so racists project their racism onto them. But if he wanted to, G.K. Butterfield could pass for a white without too much trouble.

  That's what this whole thing is about, coded racism and xenophobia.

To a small extent that's part of it, but for the most part it's really not.

Republicans would be doing similar stuff if the President was a white Democrat.  They would be creating false controversies about nothing and calling him or her communist.  They wouldn't be race-baiting though and by itself, race-baiting and playing into racism as a political tactic is low and should be called out. 

And on the whole lying issue.  Obama didn't directly lie about Obamacare or his uncle.  And you know what KRS-ONE said:  "Every President we ever had lied, you know I'm kind of glad Nixon died."
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