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DemPGH
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« on: September 01, 2015, 05:00:30 PM »

Can't someone simply just overrule this ideologue and issue the licenses? I saw that someone affiliated with her said that SS couples can just go to another county, and I thought that was utterly preposterous. So then this woman can use her religious beliefs to blatantly defy the Constitution and deny people their rights? She has no idea what can of worms she is trying in futility to open.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2015, 03:16:37 PM »

I'd much rather she be removed (and I don't think she has any business being in public service given her actions), but there's no readily available way to do that, and since she is refusing a court order, and refusing to perform a service she was elected to perform, jail is the only option, and I applaud justice being served.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2015, 03:48:45 PM »

I'd much rather she be removed (and I don't think she has any business being in public service given her actions), but there's no readily available way to do that, and since she is refusing a court order, and refusing to perform a service she was elected to perform, jail is the only option, and I applaud justice being served.

I think it might help nip these sorts of 'pleas' over religious beliefs in the bud. She's a four times married hypocrite which most of those who gripe over such things tend to be. Christians who are comfortable in their faith don't scream victimisation when asked to do a job.

Absolutely. First, she appears to be a convert to some ultra conservative branch of Christianity amidst all this. Second, I feared that the Hobby Lobby decision would encourage the kind of behavior she has shown, a smug defiance of the law in favor of whatever she thinks God wants her to do. That literally cannot happen in a free society because that's simply not what law is or how it's derived. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2015, 11:53:37 AM »

I'd much rather she be removed (and I don't think she has any business being in public service given her actions), but there's no readily available way to do that, and since she is refusing a court order, and refusing to perform a service she was elected to perform, jail is the only option, and I applaud justice being served.

I think it might help nip these sorts of 'pleas' over religious beliefs in the bud.
She's a four times married hypocrite which most of those who gripe over such things tend to be. Christians who are comfortable in their faith don't scream victimisation when asked to do a job.

I expected this to be humorous in retrospect, didn't expect it to be so soon.  Brilliant strategy now wasn't it?  You can always count on passionate people to just shut up by jailing them.

But it's obviously not about "shutting her up," it's about making her comply with the law. Matter of fact, I'm perfectly happy to watch her media whore and to continue making a fool of herself, comparing herself to Rocky or whatever. And now that one of her deputies will stand up to her and not be bullied by her, and will in fact do her job, that's great. Do let her keep talking and posturing and crusading and taking time off.

Now she's taking off till Monday, and if she comes back and interferes again, she'll really have exposed herself.

It's like if I decided in a similar position that I am not going to grant hunting license and/or gun license applications because I morally disapprove of them, I'd end up in jail. If I decide my moral conscience won't let me continuing paying the mortgage, guess what? The bank's going to take the house back. So, you can't let this woman in her position continue to just defy the law and discriminate against people simply because she feels like it. Hiding behind her religion is a cheap opt-out for avoiding a civil obligation she has accepted (by being elected) and which she simply does not want to do, and that's the risk with "religious objections." Kim Davis is a living straw man!
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