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« on: June 23, 2016, 09:01:32 AM »

There goes that red avatar talking point.....


"Donald Trump and his joint fundraising committee have raised at least $11 million since Tuesday morning, Republicans said Wednesday, a tremendously quick haul that comes amid concerns about his fundraising ability."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/politics/donald-trump-11-million-since-tuesday/
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 09:47:01 AM »

I think he said in the primaries he wont take money until the GE.
That is correct.
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 01:00:47 PM »

Isn't half this amount a gift, since he matches what is brought in? So in reality he "raised" half this amount, no?

And how could any self-respecting individual actually contribute small money to Trump knowing full well that he lines his own Trump pockets, with receipts to Trump Tower, Mar-A-Lago, Trump Hotels and other Trump entities.
The article is clear that this is NOT inclusive of matching.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 03:16:10 PM »

I think he said in the primaries he wont take money until the GE.
That is correct.

Not really. Many times in the primaries he bragged about self-funding and never mentioned exceptions to that. The whole point was to convince voters that his entire campaign was self-funded and that he couldn't be bought. His implications were obvious and just because he occasionally threw in "just for the primary" doesn't mean anything. It's obvious what he was trying to get voters to believe.

He was pretty clear about the need for funding for the GE when asked in a number of debates. I remember Trump explicitly saying that he would not need money for the primary, but would take it from the party for the general.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 03:57:34 PM »

How many Republican debates did you watch, Virginia. I saw pretty much all of them except the one Trump wasn't in and one other. Trust me, he was explicit about what he needed to do for the general.

These are pretty much small dollar donations from non-special interests right now.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2016, 04:12:48 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2016, 04:16:44 PM by Seriously? »

How many Republican debates did you watch, Virginia. I saw pretty much all of them except the one Trump wasn't in and one other. Trust me, he was explicit about what he needed to do for the general.

These are pretty much small dollar donations from non-special interests right now.

I watched almost all of them myself, and I don't recall hearing what you are saying Trump said. What I took away from those debates is that he is self-funding his campaign. Period.
I'm working, so I can't go into a deep dive, but this is what Manafort said on Face the Nation in June. Trump has said the same thing as well.

DICKERSON: In terms of funding a general election, Mr. Trump has talked a lot about how he's self-funded. Will he be able to main that through a general?

MANAFORT: Well, what he's -- he's been a candidate running for the nomination. Once he is the nominee of the Republican Party, he has further responsibilities besides his own candidacy, where he will -- is the head of the ticket and where he is committed to making sure that Nancy Pelosi is never speaker of the House again and that -- that Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer remain in the minority of the Senate. So he's indicated that he'd be willing to work with -- is going to work with leaders of the Republican Party and the various committees help raise money for them as part of the overall ticket.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-transcripts-may-1-2016-cruz-sanders-graham-manafort/

Trump in WV for the GE campaign in May.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRQRv_Nft1w
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2016, 04:24:15 PM »

How many Republican debates did you watch, Virginia. I saw pretty much all of them except the one Trump wasn't in and one other. Trust me, he was explicit about what he needed to do for the general.

These are pretty much small dollar donations from non-special interests right now.

Omg stop with the debates. I don't care if he slipped it in there and I never said he didn't. I said that he only later began introducing these exceptions and caveats to his self-funding scheme. He goes around the country ranting in front of thousands of people time after time and has his staff/supporters on news shows saying completely different things. He intentionally mislead people and I articulated my point in my last post. Trump intentionally mislead people into thinking he would self-fund his entire presidential campaign. Most of his supporters do not pay as much attention to this stuff as you do.

We're just going in circles now. Believe what you want to believe, but the general consensus among most supporters has never been "oh, only self-funding for the primary!", unless you're talking about the consensus of Trump supporters who intensely follow his campaign.


I watched almost all of them myself, and I don't recall hearing what you are saying Trump said. What I took away from those debates is that he is self-funding his campaign. Period.

This is basically what I'm saying, except for his entire campaign. Sometimes he said he was only self-funding the primary, but that was later on, and most of the time he only said he was self-funding, and nothing more. This led people to believe he was self-funding the entire thing. It doesn't matter if he later began saying "only for the primary", he already created a narrative and people already bought into it.

He does this crap for everything. Seriously? doesn't get what I'm saying. He seems to think that because Trump began saying he'd only fund his primary campaign, that it somehow erases the fact that he told millions of supporters previously that he would self-fund, with no exceptions. Every time he mentioned self-funding, he didn't always throw in "only for the primary". That is an important distinction.
Self-funding $1 billion even for a billionaire is a lot of money. Most billionaires (Bill Gates included) are rich on paper and their fortunes are tied up in stock or real estate or other investments and not easily liquidated. I personally can't blame the guy.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2016, 04:25:57 PM »


Sorry Seriously? but Trump started out telling everyone that he was self-funding his campaign and was beholden to nobody. And he was putting all the others down for accepting large donations and money from super pacs.

It was a big part of his appeal last year going into this year. You can't deny that.

But once again he is back peddling on something he said. And he may have said it in ignorance since he probably didn't expect to get as far as he did. Nevertheless, he's now going to be among the rest of the schmucks who are "beholden" to others for money.
Right now he is beholden to no one. All he's taken money from are the same folks Bernie has -- ordinary citizens.

And again, he's been consistent about needing to fundraise along with the RNC when the general rolled around.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2016, 04:35:53 PM »

Seriously?, you're just making excuses for the guy now. Not buying it.
He's made the comment multiple times. Go look at the youtube link above.  This is hardly a new revelation.
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