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12th Doctor
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« on: December 07, 2007, 02:52:15 PM »

I wouldn't be that opposed to this if California wasn't one of the most gerrymandered states in the country.  In fact, I'd favor a nationwide district method if there were a sure fire way of creating fair congressional districts nationwide.

You mean like this?

I've seen similar (if not the same) thing proposed before and I am disinclined to put it in action.  In several states you end up with strange slivers such as this one in Ohio stretching from the western edge of Cincinnati up to Springfield:



Also, as the mapmakers themselves note, sometimes a state has a highly concentrated population near a central line which creates odd shaped districts.  The mapmakers use this crazy looking map of Colorado as an example:



Thus, I think that a mathematical method of creating the smallest possible district would be far superior to the splitline method.  The would create more compact districts and avoid the splitting problem in Colorado.  Also, I think that some man made boundaries should be considered important, such as voting precincts.  It seems ridiculous to me that people within the same voting precinct would be voting for two different members of congress.

There is also the fact that some gerrymandering is acctually a good thing.  When you are dealing with a city, or a regional that had a common identity, it makes more sense to keep it in one district.
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2007, 02:56:41 PM »
« Edited: December 07, 2007, 03:00:59 PM by Supersoulty »

Also, those maps seem to contain a bias of their own, now that I look at it, in that they often times split large cities into several different congressional districts, which in its self could have the effect of making several district lean strongly towards the Democrats.  I don't think that creating 3 districts that are strongly Dem in the place of 1 district that is strongly Dem, one the leans Dem and one that leans Republican is "fair" (this is the case with Pittsburgh in this system).

Plus, they don't seem to understand that Southern States are required by law to make those black majority districts that are so badly gerrymandered.
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