Molson's Canadian vs. Foster's Australian

[12th Doctor]

The problem with "Canadian Patriotism"  and the Candian sense of national identity is that it can only be defined as being one thing... "not American".  That comes through in this ad where pretty much every line is a stab against Americans.  Without the US, Canada would have absolutly nothing to hold it together, but then again, if Canada was beside any country other than the US, it woul dhave been conquered a dozen times over by now.

Can anyone here acctually tell me what it means to be Canadian, as opposed to being "not American"?

P.S.  This is all very interesting coming from a company that I am certain does far more business in the US than in Canada.  Here in Erie, they have a billboard saying "Molson: Saluting Erie, a great American baseball town.  How ironic, eh?

P.P.S  Good thing we are here to seperate you guys from Mexico, or you guys would all have been speaking Spanish 100 years ago.

[12th Doctor]

Can anyone here acctually tell me what it means to be Canadian, as opposed to being "not American"?

Honestly, I've explained it before, and nobody cared.  Whenever someone did care, it was only because they wanted to make some snide comment about how the reasons are stupid and how Americans have so much more to be proud of.  I've basically given up defending it, because there really is no point.  So, sure, go ahead, assume that Canadians' whole meaning in life is hating Americans and that they have nothing to be proud of.  I won't stop you.

I will, however, say that it has often seemed to be the case that those who criticize Canadians for allegedly defining their entire identity on "not being American" are often those for whom a great part of their national pride is based off of "being superior to every other country", which is not exactly all that nobler.

I claim no superiority.  I am just offended by Canada's incesent anti-American attitude.

[12th Doctor]

Here is a page of famous canadians, http://www3.sympatico.ca/taniah/Canada/people/

JAMES DOOHAN ROCKS

But i think family guy puts it best...

Griffin: Yeah which is more than we got from those free loaded Canadians.
[blank screen appears]
Peter Griffin: Canada sucks.
The more you know

Over half of these people live in the US now, BTW.

[12th Doctor]

Canadians wouldn't hate Americans so much if people like Supersoulty and Richius didn't say the things they did. There really is no need to be cynical about it. America is a great country, full of great people, but it's people like you guys that can really piss us off.  Canada does have a lot to be proud of, but as Gabu mentioned, there is nothing any of us can say to change your thick headed minds. Shame on you both.

I never had any problem with Canada until it became obvious to me that they had a problem with us.  The fact that a majority of Canadian school children think the US is "evil" while a majority of Americans see Canada as a "friend" does not speak well for your possition.

[12th Doctor]

Canadians wouldn't hate Americans so much if people like Supersoulty and Richius didn't say the things they did. There really is no need to be cynical about it. America is a great country, full of great people, but it's people like you guys that can really piss us off.  Canada does have a lot to be proud of, but as Gabu mentioned, there is nothing any of us can say to change your thick headed minds. Shame on you both.

I never had any problem with Canada until it became obvious to me that they had a problem with us.  The fact that a majority of Canadian school children think the US is "evil" while a majority of Americans see Canada as a "friend" does not speak well for your possition.

You shouldn't hate people for their opinions.

Tell that to your countrymen who think of us as "evil."

oh snap

[12th Doctor]

In addition, we don't like the fact that Canada has not helped us in Iraq, but I would not ever say that Canadians are "evil".

[12th Doctor]

What is Canada anyways?  Toronto?  Because that is pretty much Canada.  The rest is a barren wasteland.  The only other city of marginal importance to the country is Montreal because that is where derivatives are traded.

Are you trying to bring up the past?
You're bashing Canada, and you were also Bashing Mexico... hmm I think, you believe that 2 opposites beget evil

Oh please.  I bash with good reason.  Mexico has even less to be proud of.  At least Canada has a reasonable standard of living.

I have to disagree with Richius here.  Standard of living should not be any measure of pride.