surprise nominees for 2008?

[12th Doctor]

The biggest suprise nominee for the Dems in 2008 would by Evan Bayh or Mark Warner.  They simply didn't get their asses kicked badly enough to understand that 2004 was a rejection of their party, not that they simply "didn't get the message out".

[12th Doctor]

*roll eyes*

a 2.5% loss is hardly an ass kicking, and it's kind of difficult for such a narrow victory to show that a country is rejecting an entire party.

Ummmm... that was my point.  I said they didn't get their asses kicked badly enough.

[12th Doctor]

You think this country is ready for a black....none the less woman president?

Yes.  I think she would be an incredibly strong candidate, if she is Pro-Life.

Who could lay a glove on her?  She grew up on the front-lines of the Civil Rights battle.  She can't be beaten in debates.  She is graceful and doesn't pick fights, yet she is tough.

And, her being single is actually a plus - she would not be threatening to male voters since she wouldn't be upstaging her husband.  And we wouldn't have to worry about the role of the "First Gentleman".

She's nothing but business - exactly the type of black that biggots find acceptable.

Southern conservative whites (the base of the Republican party) are not going to vote for a black single woman, especially a pro-choice black single woman.  She has less of a chance of getting past the primaries than Giuliani.  She's black, thats strike 1 against her from Southern Republicans, she's single thats strike 2, she's a woman thats strike 3, she's pro-choice strike 4, & I think she is for more gun control (not sure though) strike 5.  White Southern conservative Republicans simply won't vote for her

The Democrats keep repeating the same mistakes.  They keep misunderestimating their competition.

[12th Doctor]

We need to pump out more babies, Santorum is probably producing another Republican right now.

There, don't you feel stupid now for supporting policies that kill off your voter base?


And, yes, I understand that you were attempting to assert that Conservatives just breed like rabbits and are, therefore, intellectually infereior to the sophisticated liberals, I personally don't give a sh**t, because I like big families, I want a big family and I see nothing wrong with having 5,6,7,8 or even 9 kids, so long as you can support them all, and I don't mean in the modern materialistic "me first" way where they all need new cloths and all the new X-Box games. 

Today, we call it "focusing our love on one child".  I call it "spoiled rotten".

[12th Doctor]

*roll eyes*

a 2.5% loss is hardly an ass kicking, and it's kind of difficult for such a narrow victory to show that a country is rejecting an entire party.

Ummmm... that was my point.  I said they didn't get their asses kicked badly enough.

I think BRTD's point was that losing by 2.5 is not a direct refusal of Democratic ideas.

Thus, my reasoning that they will go farther Left.