I'm going to create an acctually Atlas fantasy

[12th Doctor]

I'm going to create an acctually Atlas fantasy senario for President Forever.  I want to know what issues I should have, which parties, candidate stats (you may have a total of 25 points), who voted for whom and where they are from.  If you guys can help me out with this, I will create the senario.

[12th Doctor]

Like I said, I will only do it if others help me get the info that I asked for.

[12th Doctor]

Like I said, I will only do it if others help me get the info that I asked for.

Ok.  Well, I think you should include the major parties, that is the UL, Dems, Reps, and UAC.  Probably include all the major office holders and former office holders in fantasy poltics.  You could talk to said people about what kind of attributes they should have.

Help me list them.  Could you do a list of office holders that you think should be included, please?

[12th Doctor]

Ok, here's a basic list of people that I came up with off the top of my head.  My apologies for any oversights.  Also, there is no rhyme or reason to this list, its just a train of thought thing:

PBrunsel
JFK
Gustaf
Supersoulty
KEmperor
Nation
Stevennick
Al
Texasgurl
Ilikeverin
hughento
Fritz
htmldon
Harry
Statesrights
Nym90
John Ford
Wildcard

This looks like I good list, but I'm going to add Demrepdan

[12th Doctor]

Alos, submit which photo you want if you are on this list or think you really should be.  When I make a list of issues that I will use, I will ask who's photo you want to use.

[12th Doctor]

Issues...If we all propose 2-3 it'll be easier. Also, we should include how big the issue is.

I propose the Death Penalty (medium), The environment (low) and Federalism vs. Regionalism (v. high).


Also, other people who currently hold no poisitions (rg yourself and myself, Chris) but are prominent should also be included if they want

Good choice, everyone, do this.

[12th Doctor]

May I suggest having the Federalist League as one of the endorsements that candidates may vie for?

Perhapes

I will use The Region as one of the interviewers.

[12th Doctor]

Is a serious picture necessary? In that case I can dig one up I guess...

This is a brilliant idea Super.

I'd like to be included of course. I don't think we should make our own profiles, if it's gonna be for real, but perhaps our VP-bonus. For me it'd be either integrity or experience I think.

Well, by "picture" I mean one of the file photos from the game.  Almost any presidential politician of the past (primary or general) has a picture in there.

I would prefere if you give me a profile, once I come up with the issues to be included, that way I won't screw up anyones beliefs.

[12th Doctor]

For my picture, use the picture of Fritz the Cat in my sig.

Midgard Chronicle should be one of the interviewers.

Sorry, I dont know how to and photos that are not already on.  I have no clue how to crop them to get them to fit.  Like I told Gus, you can pick a photo from the acctual game.

I would like to add that French candidates from 2002 and Australian candidates from this year are also included.

And I will use the Chronicle

[12th Doctor]

Issues:
Federal v. Regional law
War in Iraq
Actions in Darfur
Gay Marriage
Gun Control
Taxes
Trolls
Absent Senators

That is a good list, thank you.

[12th Doctor]

Okay, I think I have a method figured out.

The senerio is going to go state to state by acctual EV.

To determine each state, I will use the political affiliation of the people registered in that state with a 10% "undecided" factor.

In states where we have only one registered voter, I will use That one voter as 33% of the vote and then factor in what I will call the "region average" or the total voter registration for a 10 state region to determine the remaining 66%.

If a state has no registered voters, then I will use only the regional average to determine the margins and voting patterns.

How does that sound?

[12th Doctor]

I made a pPresident Forever Scenario for the June Election a while back (never submitted it for obvious reasons) and here were the new issues I added:

War on Trolls

Harrygate

The Supreme Court

China

Regional vs. Federal Government

My interviews were:

Josh's Traveling Salvation Show

News Channel Atlasia

Ilikeverin News

Wildcard News Network

Late Night with Liberty

West Branch Tonight

Not a very good scenario (and a bit biased toward Reaganfan, for obvoius reasons).

This is just a help for you Supersoulty.

Yes, thank you.  And I will get the questionaire for my choice candidates out as soon as I figure out what issues I want.

[12th Doctor]

OK, then it doesn't really matter much to me, I don't even have the full game.

On profiles, I was talking more about the points in different fields than anything else, since I'd expect some candidates to be stronger than others in reality.

We would decide our own platform though, I realize that. Will you create the various positions on the issues or what?

I think that I will issue all "personality" points, as I think that I can do it more fairly and realistically than some people can do it for themselves.  I determined that you are correct, in part, but I will assure that all candidates have between 23-27 total points.  I think, for instance that I will give Migrendel a 5 Leadership, as he is a maverick, but this will be off-set by the extremeness of his veiws.  Stuff like that.

And yes, I will create the possible possitions on the issues.  For issues that carry over from the acctual game, I will change the stances to make them more compatable to our forum. 

[12th Doctor]

OK, then it doesn't really matter much to me, I don't even have the full game.

On profiles, I was talking more about the points in different fields than anything else, since I'd expect some candidates to be stronger than others in reality.

We would decide our own platform though, I realize that. Will you create the various positions on the issues or what?

I think that I will issue all "personality" points, as I think that I can do it more fairly and realistically than some people can do it for themselves.  I determined that you are correct, in part, but I will assure that all candidates have between 23-27 total points.  I think, for instance that I will give Migrendel a 5 Leadership, as he is a maverick, but this will be off-set by the extremeness of his veiws.  Stuff like that.

And yes, I will create the possible possitions on the issues.  For issues that carry over from the acctual game, I will change the stances to make them more compatable to our forum. 

OK, fair enough. I think 27 is a good upper ceiling, but 23 is a little too high. I did this in my head and I can reveal that I gave myself 23, Nym, PB and JFK all 27, for instance. I also found that some members might get below 23 but that none would really get more than 27.

On the game, John Kerry gets a total of 24 personality points.  I think that some of our people can beat that.

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Oh yeah, this is easy. For example, the UAC logo

And since I assume there's already a Hoover one, something for Phil
 


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Thanks.  I like these.  If I need anything else, I'll ask.

[12th Doctor]

No one should get below 3 Leadership.  It makes it almost imposible to play the game bacause you can't do anything.

[12th Doctor]

No one should get below 3 Leadership.  It makes it almost imposible to play the game bacause you can't do anything.

That's a good point, but I wanted to do it properly. Otherwise you bias the game against those who have high leadership, IMHO.

I see your point, but no one can opperate with only 4 command points.

[12th Doctor]

Stamina is CP, not Leadership.

Check again.  CP is determined by Leadership.

[12th Doctor]

heh, surely my integrity value is higher than 2....
also I would think my leadership would be at 4

Don;t be a braggard.  It kills your charisma. 

[12th Doctor]

heh, surely my integrity value is higher than 2....
also I would think my leadership would be at 4

Don;t be a braggard.  It kills your charisma. 

well c'mon though...Integrity 2?  Despite some false allegations, I've never done anything immoral on this forum, and no allegers have ever nailed me with anything.

It is still tarnishing to your reputation is some peoples mind.  Remember, Integrity is largely based on public perseption.

[12th Doctor]

heh, surely my integrity value is higher than 2....
also I would think my leadership would be at 4

Don;t be a braggard.  It kills your charisma. 

well c'mon though...Integrity 2?  Despite some false allegations, I've never done anything immoral on this forum, and no allegers have ever nailed me with anything.

It is still tarnishing to your reputation is some peoples mind.  Remember, Integrity is largely based on public perseption.

I realize that, but c'mon...the game gives both Clinton and Nixon a 3 in integrity...surely I'm not BELOW them!

When Clinton and Nixon ran, people didn't know what was going to happen.  You running is more like Ted Kennedy running.

[12th Doctor]

Attention:


Not everyone is going to be in the game.  Serious candidates only.

That is all.

[12th Doctor]

I hate to say it, but wouldn't being gay lower "perceived integrity" to some people.....if a non-scandal and a comment taken out of context can lower me to a 2, then being gay can certainly make hurt someone (sorry, hugh.)

No.  Why would it?

[12th Doctor]

When I wrote that, I had assumed that the version with primaries would be out soon.  To my disappointment, it is taking a long time.  I think that I will just go ahead and create it with the current version.

I will have to rethink much though.  The collapse of the UAC might lead me to just create Republican, Democrat, Centrists (or Freedom/Union) and Independents (or Independents/United Left/FarmLabor).

I am creatin a senario right now, for pratice.  After I am finished and see that everything is successful, I will start on our.  I have not forgotten.

[12th Doctor]

You could also maybe include the new office holders, given that we seem to have basically included everyone else who holds or has held an office.

I will include no more than 10 for each Party or group.  This doesn't include cross-overs.

I do have a question, however, do you guys want me to do this as a sort of "all-time" thing or do you want me to base it off our current time?  This would, of course effect the parties and candidates.

If someone would be willing to carry on with my work, we could have different senarios.  For instance "Soult v. Nyman", "Gustaf v. Nyman v. StevenNick" and "PBrunsel v. Nation v. Harry" etc.