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« on: July 14, 2020, 08:36:14 PM »

Why is a 30 year old novice politician being blamed or mocked for the status quo of violence in the inner cities that has gone on for decades before she was even born?

 Maybe if we had more AOC style politicians we wouldn't have the massive inequality that creates gun violence, not just murders but also suicides.


Reasons AOC is being mocked:

   1.  She is the product of a wealthy suburb, and not the "inner city".

   2.  It is evident to all that the current Marxist Riots are not "bread riots".

I would never vote for AOC, but I do admire her saavy.  I do believe her 2018 primary win stems from an ability to see the incumbent's vulnerability at a time when the incumbent (Rep. Joe Crowley, Democrat-Queens) was an awesome accomplishment.  She's certainly more saavy, politically and legislatively, than the rest of the squad.  Ilhan Omar is a ranting anti-American idiot, while Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley appear to be backbenching mediocrities, but AOC is the one who actually has both audacity and media savvy.  She could well succeed Schumer in the Senate.  This is meant as a compliment.  I would never vote for AOC, but there are a number of Democrats (and even a few Republicans) whose electoral demise I would rather see than AOC's.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2020, 09:45:54 PM »

Why is a 30 year old novice politician being blamed or mocked for the status quo of violence in the inner cities that has gone on for decades before she was even born?

 Maybe if we had more AOC style politicians we wouldn't have the massive inequality that creates gun violence, not just murders but also suicides.


Reasons AOC is being mocked:

   1.  She is the product of a wealthy suburb, and not the "inner city".

   2.  It is evident to all that the current Marxist Riots are not "bread riots".

I would never vote for AOC, but I do admire her saavy.  I do believe her 2018 primary win stems from an ability to see the incumbent's vulnerability at a time when the incumbent (Rep. Joe Crowley, Democrat-Queens) was an awesome accomplishment.  She's certainly more saavy, politically and legislatively, than the rest of the squad.  Ilhan Omar is a ranting anti-American idiot, while Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley appear to be backbenching mediocrities, but AOC is the one who actually has both audacity and media savvy.  She could well succeed Schumer in the Senate.  This is meant as a compliment.  I would never vote for AOC, but there are a number of Democrats (and even a few Republicans) whose electoral demise I would rather see than AOC's.

I'd disagree with your analysis in these respects. Ayanna Pressley is by far the most skilled of the Squad's members. She is much more establishment-friendly than they are, generates far less controversy, and is more intelligent, in addition to having more substantive political experience, having worked as a congressional staffer and as a member of the Boston City Council. I think she is much more likely than Ocasio-Cortez to enter the Senate one day, almost certainly to succeed Elizabeth Warren. Tlaib, on her part, is certainly not a backbencher, and is almost as well known as Ocasio-Cortez is. She and Omar are tied as being the worst members of the Squad, and I hope that they both lose their primaries.

Pressley may be more experienced in the traditional sense, but she's destined to be a backbencher.  She's also not really a member of "The Squad"; she kind of just hangs around them.

AOC is far more of a leader and far more of a self-starter.  She's a real "comer".  She's the kind of self-starter that you don't see every day.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2020, 12:07:03 AM »

Why is a 30 year old novice politician being blamed or mocked for the status quo of violence in the inner cities that has gone on for decades before she was even born?

 Maybe if we had more AOC style politicians we wouldn't have the massive inequality that creates gun violence, not just murders but also suicides.


Reasons AOC is being mocked:

   1.  She is the product of a wealthy suburb, and not the "inner city".

   2.  It is evident to all that the current Marxist Riots are not "bread riots".

I would never vote for AOC, but I do admire her saavy.  I do believe her 2018 primary win stems from an ability to see the incumbent's vulnerability at a time when the incumbent (Rep. Joe Crowley, Democrat-Queens) was an awesome accomplishment.  She's certainly more saavy, politically and legislatively, than the rest of the squad.  Ilhan Omar is a ranting anti-American idiot, while Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley appear to be backbenching mediocrities, but AOC is the one who actually has both audacity and media savvy.  She could well succeed Schumer in the Senate.  This is meant as a compliment.  I would never vote for AOC, but there are a number of Democrats (and even a few Republicans) whose electoral demise I would rather see than AOC's.

 What is the purpose of quoting me and ignoring the questions?

 What does AOC have to do with inequality and the insane gun violence in America that are the results of polices that have been around literally since before she was born? Nobody has answered this question.

 The current unrest in America has everything to do with wealth inequality, racism, people's lack of faith in the justice system and that Americans are sick of different rules for different people. You can't scare people about "Marxist riots" when you have a President who mocks the rule of law and norms  of governing. If you can't see that direct correlation you are blind. When Dr. King said he wanted non-violent peace movement for Civil Rights he was called a Marxist too. Stop with the old racist lines to deny people justice and equality.

Of course you can scare people with the spectre of "Marxist Riots", especially when it's true.

What is going on in the streets today is not Dr. King's "non-violent peace movement".  It is a violent Marxist revolt, something people wish to keep the general public from fully recognizing until after the election.  It is a Marxism that is a cure that is worse than all the ills you cite because it will (if fully successful) end individual Constitutional liberties and replace them with the sort of Mob Rule we see now.

Marxist-Leninist movements provide cures that are worse than the disease in every nation they've tried it.  That's what you propose.  What's going on in our streets today is nothing that Dr. King ever signed off on during his lifetime.  And no one in the SCLC ever described themselves as "trained Marxists" as Patrice Cullors, co-founder of BLM, has done.

I won't stop.  And if you say that BLM isn't a Marxist organization, you are either deceived or deceiving.  Their leaders have gone on record.  Their tactics are straight out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.  There's no middle ground here.

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