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Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries
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« on: November 11, 2016, 08:15:14 AM »

I really believe they were shocked when Hillary conceded. 

They were more shocked than Mitt Romney in 2012.  Mitt had advance notice that it would be tough and all depended on Ohio, Florida, and Colorado.  He knew that despite polls showing him with a slim popular vote lead, the structure of the election gave Obama inherent advantages.

Hillary, undoubtedly, thought those advantages were Democratic Party advantages, and that they were all still in place.  She had no idea how hated she was amongst white working class voters, even in counties in PA, MI, and WI that had gone for Obama in 2012.  She sped up the realignment amongst this demographic, and it begs the question why.  Whether or not the Democrats can be honest with themselves about that will determine whether or not the Democratic Party can restore itself as the party that best advanced the needs of working class Americans, or whether they have become something almost unrecognizable to these folks.
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Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2016, 03:21:51 PM »

I'm not criticizing any posters here; they may well be right.  But I really think that no one saw this coming, not until PA appeared to be going for Trump.

This election was a shocker on the order of Harry Truman upsetting Dewey in 1948.  No one saw that coming, either.

I didn't believe Trump would do it until he did it.  The bottom line for me is that the realignment going on in the Rust Belt amongst white working class voters was further along than anyone suspected.  Except, possibly, Donald Trump.  No matter what anyone thinks of him, Donald Trump knows SOMETHING about this process that no one else does.
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