The FBI is out of control

[Fuzzy Bear]

What has happened with the FBI and James Comey is the inevitable result of the Democratic Party clearing the decks for a nominee that they KNEW was under FBI investigation.  

In elections past, KNOWING Hillary was under investigation in the manner she was would have made her candidacy a non-starter with party insiders and donors, whether she was a Democrat or a Republican.  Hillary would never, not even this year, been chosen for VICE President had she been "under investigation", nor would she, herself, have chosen a running mate who was "under investigation" or who had recently been "under investigation".  Indeed, it may shock Atlas posters to know that most Federal officeholders and state Governors are not under investigation by law enforcement entities.

We're where we're at because running for President doesn't make you immune from investigation, and doesn't mean that the public shouldn't know about that fact before they vote.  That's the fault of Hillary Clinton (for pressing on) and of the Democratic Establishment (for clearing the decks).  And it really begs the question as to just how much of the "Democratic Establishment" is "Bill Clinton, Inc.".  

Am I really wrong here in just this?

[Fuzzy Bear]

You guys really like to deflect, don't you?

You're making most Trump supporters look reasonable in comparison on this website.

Stuff like this is why there's very few Republicans on this forum now.

There are in fact a million Republicans on this very website, but they are in fact almost all highly intelligent and can think for themselves. Does that bother you? I hope not. I for one am very pleased with the reasonable Republicans we can indulge ourselves in every day.

"Reasonable Republicans".  

What does that mean?  That they are not voting for Trump?  

Millions of Reasonable Republicans are voting for Trump.  I agree that millions of Reasonable Democrats are voting for Hillary.  Unreasonable Democrats are folks that assume that someone is a racist/sexist/alt right member/fill-in-the-blank lunatic because they are voting for Trump.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Who must control FBI? In my country its counterpart is fully controlled by president. Head of KGB cannot make any public statements without president's order.  To be more precise he can make a public statement only on order  from president. In many other countries the situation is the same.

I understand what Comey has done.  But TOO much "independence" for the FBI turns it into the J. Edgar Hoover Posse Redux.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Personal responsibility. Thy name is NEVER Democrat.

Blaming the FBI for reopening an investigation when 650,000 e-mails are unearthed is like a fat person blaming McDonalds for their obesity.

Hillary Clinton is the only one responsible for all of this.

It wasn't the FBI's bright idea to host a private e-mail server for official government correspondences.

It wasn't the FBI's bright idea to delete 33,000 e-mails when served with a subpoena.

And it certainly was not the FBI's idea to have your top assistant sync your server on the computer she shared with her perverted pedophile husband.

I'm sorry, Hillary deserves 1000% of the fallout she has wrought here. This was a self-inflicted and wholly unnecessary string of decisions on her part.

The blame that we're here, at a place where America may well elect someone guilty of a felony committed while in high office, doesn't rest squarely on Hillary; it also rests on those donors, who funded her campaign knowing she was under investigations, and on the DNC, which cleared the path for her, running off all Democratic challengers, leaving Bernie Sanders (an Independent) to be the only challenger to Clinton.

Martin O'Malley would be beating Trump.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Personal responsibility. Thy name is NEVER Democrat.

Blaming the FBI for reopening an investigation when 650,000 e-mails are unearthed is like a fat person blaming McDonalds for their obesity.

Hillary Clinton is the only one responsible for all of this.

It wasn't the FBI's bright idea to host a private e-mail server for official government correspondences.

It wasn't the FBI's bright idea to delete 33,000 e-mails when served with a subpoena.

And it certainly was not the FBI's idea to have your top assistant sync your server on the computer she shared with her perverted pedophile husband.

I'm sorry, Hillary deserves 1000% of the fallout she has wrought here. This was a self-inflicted and wholly unnecessary string of decisions on her part.

The blame that we're here, at a place where America may well elect someone guilty of a felony committed while in high office, doesn't rest squarely on Hillary; it also rests on those donors, who funded her campaign knowing she was under investigations, and on the DNC, which cleared the path for her, running off all Democratic challengers, leaving Bernie Sanders (an Independent) to be the only challenger to Clinton.

Martin O'Malley would be beating Trump.

So tell me- what do those donors see in Hillary that they didn't in Webb or Chafee? And since when did three emails equal 650,000?

That's a good question.

A better question would be this:  What did those donors see in Hillary that they didn't see in Joe Biden, Amy Klobuchar, Debbie Stabenow, Claire McCaskill, Brian Schweitzer, Chuck Schumer, et al?  That's a good question to ask in light of what we now know about the Clinton Foundation and how it operates.

Is there a relationship between Clinton Foundation "Pay to Play" and Joe Biden, et al, opting out of the race?  You tell me.

[Fuzzy Bear]

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/04/fox-news-apologizes-clinton-report/93300254/

So conservatives are just fine with the FBI leaking lies right before an election to manipulate the election?  

Perhaps someday in the future the FBI or Justice Department will start leaking negative information about investigations into Republican candidates right before an election.  How much will you like it then?

I'll say this again:  This is the occupational hazard you endure when you knowingly nominate a candidate under FBI investigation.

I'll also say this:  Bret Baier apologized and clarified.  Dan Rather can't say the same.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/04/fox-news-apologizes-clinton-report/93300254/

So conservatives are just fine with the FBI leaking lies right before an election to manipulate the election?  

Perhaps someday in the future the FBI or Justice Department will start leaking negative information about investigations into Republican candidates right before an election.  How much will you like it then?

I'll say this again:  This is the occupational hazard you endure when you knowingly nominate a candidate under FBI investigation.

I'll also say this:  Bret Baier apologized and clarified.  Dan Rather can't say the same.

When you've been in the public eye for 24+ years, and you've had Republicans trying to topple you the whole time, exactly how are you going to avoid something going to the FBI?

Joe Biden's been in the public eye since 1972 and he's never been under FBI investigation.

Debbie Stabenow's been a US Senator since 2000 (the year Hillary was elected) and she's never been under FBI investigation.

Barack Obama has had as determined enemies as anyone I can think of, and he's not been under FBI investigation.

Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand are New York State's current US Senators.  Gillibrand succeeded Clinton.  Schumer's been in the Congress since 1980.  Neither of them have been under FBI investigation.

I'm sorry to pop people's bubbles, but being under FBI investigation isn't a rite of passage in our society, even for politicians.  That some folks here view it as such is, at a certain level, alarming.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Trump is not under CRIMINAL investigation.

He's been civilly sued loads of times.  That's a fact of life for people in business in our litigious society.  He's not my idea of a role model, but all the actions against him are CIVIL actions, whereas Hillary's FBI investigation was a CRIMINAL investigation.

If we're going to attach sexual misdeeds to Donald Trump without the proof of a verdict, then, by all means, let's be honest about that.  But let's oblige Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey in the same manner and attach similar blame to Bill Clinton.  And let's hold Hillary to the standards of her own speeches, by believing their accounts and having a credible investigation.  Oh, and let's also hold Hillary to her own standards for trashing Bill's alleged victims for her own career purposes.