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Fuzzy Bear
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« on: September 15, 2016, 11:34:16 PM »

Debates, good organization, and attacks on Trump, rather than his supporters. One possible positive outcome from the tightening of the polls is that it may help Democrats realize that this race isn't over, and that we can't take victory for granted. Hopefully the threat of a President Trump will become more real to them, and energize them to come out and work hard to get Hillary elected.

If I were a Hillary supporter, I'd take solace in this.

As a Trump supporter, I take solace in Hillary's seeming inability to come off as sincere about anything.
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2016, 09:35:03 PM »

I've never quite understood the 'omg if we elect Trump it'll be so embarrassing' line of thought. I mean, consider the facts and the countries. Russia - ruled over by illiberal strongman Putin; China - a dictatorship; India - a country whose current Prime Minister is a Hindu Nationalist; Japan - has a cabinet composed primarily of historical revisionists often ill at ease with the idea that Japan committed any war crimes in World War II at all. Look at Europe, where in many countries the parties of the moderate middle are headlong decline/retreat - an FPO candidate stands a good chance of becoming the next Austrian President and Marine Le Pen is pretty much guaranteed a place in the second round of next years French Presidential Election, whilst hard right parties in the Netherlands, Sweden and Germany continue to gain considerable ground.

Really and truly, is Trump that embarrassing a leader in this context?

I guess there's a good reason why our country is so prosperous and prominent compared with all those others. So why start now embracing a lunatic for President and lower our status in the world?



Your country is more prominent than any of those others because you have more nuclear missiles and better armed forces than they do, as well as the legacy of the US interfering in the affairs of other nations, to rearrange them to US benefit, for a very long time. It has nothing to do with 'values' or some silly horsesh**t like that.

You probably don't want to hear my answer to that, but chalk that up to total testosterone leadership for as long as our country has existed. That's how males think and act, and that's what's important to them.

In my view, that's one of the reasons we need to get a female in as President, to balance out all that over-the-top masculine aggressive behavior. I mean, it's good for pioneering a new country, but when it takes that spirit and makes it an aim to interfere with other countries, then there's a problem.

In spite of that, our country has a lot going for it, which makes it a great place to live. And that's no horsesh**t. 



When I was a young neo-hippie protesting the Vietnam War, I believed that a female President would be more likely to be dovish, to not be warmongering, etc.  Then, over the years, I saw Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Sarah Palin, and Condi Rice and my views changed. 

This year, I watched Carly Fiorina present as one of the most over-the-top warmongers ever to run for President of either gender.  I'd give Donald Trump 3 sets of nuclear buttons before I'd give Carly a tour of the Pentagon.   

Hillary?  She'd start a war to reverse sagging poll numbers.  She's that kind of person.  She really is. 
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