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Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries
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« on: August 31, 2016, 10:28:49 PM »

Watching the families of people who died at the hands of illegal aliens was hard to watch. I see why they back Trump, but the devotion to him was a bit unsettling.

I understand why they're devoted to him.  THEIR government failed them.  Not just their Federal Government, but, in some case their "Sanctuary City" local government which, quite frankly, obstructed justice.

These people are sick and tired of folks whining about people who come here illegally needing to "come out of the shadows", or concern about "keeping families together", or how (from Jeb!'s mouth to my ears) it's an "act of love" to crash the border and enter America.  They endure these discussions watching the news in the face of their own experiences and rightly conclude that political elites that benefit from illegal immigration not only don't care about these people's pain, but find them a nuisance and hope they go away.  I'm sure that at least some of them hoped that someone other than Donald Trump would stand up for them, but they're glad that he did.  Hillary Clinton couldn't care less about these folks; they cramp HER talking points.

What's the difference between the Angel Moms on stage with Trump and the Khans?  The difference is that while the Khans endured tragedy, their government did not fail them.  Captain Khan enlisted in the military; he signed up for the possibility of being killed in action.  All of our military do, in reality.  My second son did, and served in Afghanistan; he could have come home dead, and I'm thankful to God that he didn't.  Trump's Angel Moms are a different story; they are all cases of folks whose government failed to protect citizenry, and the cases that involve "sanctuary cities" are the most egregious failures of government not fulfilling its first duty to its citizens.
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2016, 10:04:56 PM »

Just because something terrible happens to someone in your family does not give you the excuse to be an extremist or to back an extremist who could damage the country.

I get this to a point.  I get this when you apply it to the victims of drunk drivers or sex offenders, and, especially when the victim dies, their families.  Their pain is immense, but I won't sign off on the sentiment that it's OK to shoot the defendant as he/she comes into court, and I won't sign off on lowering the standard of a criminal trial to something less than "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt" for conviction. 

But the Angel Moms are different.  THEIR loved ones are dead because their government failed to enforce existing laws.  Indeed, those whose loved ones died as a result of Sanctuary Cities can, arguably, say that their loved ones died because their local officials obstructed what should have been the normal workings of the criminal justice system.

Whatever you want to say about Trump's policy, his positions on enforcement reflects existing laws; even "the wall" (which, I admit, may never be built) is consistent as a tool to enforce existing law.  Hillary's REAL position is on ignoring existing law until the situation reaches critical mass and some sort of "amnesty" gains sufficient traction.  There is a problem with any nation that comes to the point where it cannot be counted on to enforce its own laws.  At some point, that nation ceases becoming a government of laws and becomes a government of men.  Is that a good thing?  Not in my opinion, but that's what Hillary Clinton is actually advocating.  (That begs other questions, but that's for other topics.)
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