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Fuzzy Bear
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« on: December 15, 2015, 02:49:19 PM »

http://opportunitylives.com/donald-trump-is-about-to-get-fired/

Now I'm not a "Trump Supporter".  I agree with Trump on a number of issues, but have problems with his style and some of his off-the-cuff policy proposals that are scary.  I wouldn't vote for Trump if the GOP primary were held today, but I'm still undecided.  (I'm a registered Republican, but an independent voter; kind of a RINO.)

But I thought we were beyond this kind of starry eyed thinking.  Trump has proven himself hardier than the field to date.  What makes people think that Trump will be flummoxed by a drop in the polls?  Indeed, as this article appeared, so did a new poll putting even further ahead nationally, and a new PPP poll putting Trump 3 points up on Ted Cruz in Iowa.  It takes a LOT of faith to believe that Trump will not withstand the Ted Cruz Flavor of the Month in mere popularity.

Don't get me wrong:  I do not believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.  He won't be the nominee because the GOP Establishment will not give away THEIR store to a guy who has no regard for them.  They will make the deal they have to make with Ted Cruz (who is, at least a GOP Senator) to stop Trump and mollify his base.  Then, and only then, will Trump be "overtaken".  The GOP Establishment's motivation is to ensure that the "dirty business" of nomination-brokering isn't done on TV in full view of the American people a la Chicago 1968 (D) or San Francisco 1964 (R). 

The Trump Deniers seem to think that Trump has no idea as to what game he's playing.  They think he's a guy who leads his Fantasy Football team on pure luck; his opponents' players all underperform when LowEnergyRoiders or ShortDrinksOfWater face off against FirstAndTrump.  Let's get real.  Donald Trump knows the rules of their game, changed those rules, and now, LowEnergyRoiders and ShortDrinksOfWater are now playing by Trump's rules.  Unlimited substitutions.  No points for defense.  The heads of the rest of the field are still spinning; it's the Rubios, Bushes, and Kasiches who are the flummoxed ones.

It's time for realness.  Trump Deniers need to admit they have never been right yet. 
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2016, 07:49:32 AM »

Since I started this thread, a lot has transpired.  I voted for Trump in the Florida primary, and am leaning Trump in the GE.  I presume everyone here knows what's happened in the primaries, etc.

Then I check out the following article:  http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/04/16/donald-trump-looking-exit-strategy-long-troll-gop/

Amazing.  At this late date, Trump is, supposedly, crapping in his pants because he might actually win.  Erick Erickson is supposed to know what he's talking about, yet he puts an "exit strategy" article on Trump out.  Really, is he serious?

Now, folks insist that Trump can't get to 1,237 delegates.  That he can't win on a second ballot if it comes to that.  That he can't beat Hillary. 

At what point are the "Trump Can't" crowd dismissed as fools or trolls?  They're still out there in the media, being taken somewhat seriously, but why?  Why are Erick Erickson and Hugh Hewitt still taken seriously; they have thrown the kitchen sink at Trump and he's taken the kitchen sink and . . . well . . . done something else quite different with it as far as those two are concerned.  Are they any more credible than 1980's "Reagan Can't" crowd? 

They're really not "Trump Deniers" anymore.  They're "Trump Liars".

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2017, 09:45:53 PM »

In hindsight, have the Trump Deniers ever been right?
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 10:12:34 PM »

You know that consistently having a bias in one direction against the evidence and then being right a few times does not make you a prophet, right?

Well, yes, I do know that.  It's not that I'm a prophet; it's that the Trump Deniers have a streak of being wrong that has continued into his Presidency (something they insisted had no chance of happening even after the votes were in).

It's not that I'm so right; its that the Trump Deniers have been so wrong, yet events have no impact on their thinking.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2017, 08:16:15 PM »

Being wrong in a different direction than most people is not an accomplishment.

What do you mean?
There are some people who are partisan anti-trump hacks. You, on the other hand, are a partisan pro-trump hack.

Yeah but I am never wrong, so I still don't get what you were trying to say.

The difference between pro-Trump hacks and anti-Trump hacks is that pro-Trump hacks are always correct and invested money in Microsoft in the 1970s. Anti-Trump hacks on the other hand invested their entire retirement in Enron in 2001.
That's certainly an apt analogy for the current situation of Trump Deniers.

I believe that Trump's winning strategy takes into account the Deniers acting as if "He's not serious!" or "He can't win!".  It's like the folks who blew off the NFL Replacement Players during the 1987 NFL Players' Strike.  "They're not any good!" shrieked folks.  Well, maybe, but as one of the owners reps said at a press conference of the replacement players:  "These games are going to count!". 

Trump Deniers treated Trump's campaign as if it didn't count; as if there were two (2) divisions; the Establishmentarians and the Rebels that met in a playoff for the nomination.  They didn't get it; the primaries were every man for themselves, and Trump was as real a candidate as they were.  And he's as real a President as Obama or either Bush.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2019, 01:21:09 PM »

Are there still Trump Deniers?  Is it still a publicity stunt run amok?  Is he really just an idiot who lucked out; a guy with no plan?  A guy who's toast for 2020?

Trump should be considered a slight favorite for 2020, but people are already giving the Democrats AZ and GA.  Are the deniers still here?
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