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« on: August 22, 2015, 06:02:25 PM »

Had the GOP not ganged up on Trump, but just taken his entry into the race in stride, Trump wouldn't be where he is now.  People, however, are not favorably disposed to Political Elites and the Political Elites appeared to attempt to pre-empt Trump and his entire message, which just angered them further and made the rest more curious.

That a number of candidates have catered to Trump on his issue positions give the rest of the voters the sense that Trump may have been right all along, and works in Trump's favor.

Trump will be brought down when he's treated as just another candidate.  That's the secret; to make him one of the pack, and not the crusader against the "Establishment".
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2015, 08:55:54 PM »

Trump is the reality TV version of Hollywood Reagan and he's winning the nomination whether you like it or not.

The only difference is Trump is hilariously transparent about being evil while Reagan, an equally despicable villain, hid it with a sunny disposition. I'd take Trump any day over that piece of garbage.

Reagan was the first nominee of the modern Republican party and Trump will be the last. Decades of the worship of money and xenophobia have coalesced to create the Frankentrump monster.

The difference between Reagan '80 and Trump '16 is that Reagan had some IOUs from 1976 and was considered the "next in line" by many Republicans.  He was also the leader of the "movement conservatives" in the GOP.  Voters were angry then as well, but Reagan was smoothe and likable in ways Trump could never be. 

Reagan was very much an insider, even if he wasn't a part of the Eastern Establishment.  Trump is an outsider crashing the party.  He's gotten this far because there's a real demand within the GOP for his type of candidate.  The GOP is in the pickle they are in because they have encouraged xenophobia, uber-nationalism, and belief that government needs a "businessman" to run things,  but this free-trader wasn't what they had in mind.   They wanted someone who could schmooze the immigration issue.  Sorry, but . . .
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 08:17:40 PM »

Only he himself, if he starts kicking anchor babys into the Hudson River ...

That's the problem with far-right populists. They can only destroy themselves. The attacks by the mainstream and the Left only makes them stronger.

While Tender's recent shrillness has found us on opposite sides of many discussions recently, he's dead right here. People have got to stop thinking of Trump through the prism of a mainstream Republican or Conservative campaign, he's channeling European right-wing populism, so both the GOP and the media don't understand what's going on.

There are two things that kill these kinds of political movements off a) ignoring them, outrage and indignation from people who aren't them are this beast's key food source b) overreach and incompetence.

All normal rules about US politics need to be re-considered in this circumstance... he's gaffe-proof, his base LOVES it when he's impolite and impolitic, and he's making a bunch of angry, insecure white men feel good about their prejudices and insecurities. Political gold.

So just how stupid was it for the GOP Establishment to go full-bore to shut down Trump early as they did? 
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2015, 12:16:21 PM »

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This is the solution, but Trump's enemies were too stupid to see this at the beginning of all this.  It may be too late for this now.
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