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DC Al Fine
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« on: November 23, 2013, 10:50:42 AM »

American Independent Party - sort of what I call "anti big business conservatives". Think of someone like the late Sam Francis, Richard Viguerie, Ron Paul, G Edward Griffin. Anti-immigration (legal and illegal), anti-UN, anti-abortion, anti-gay. Sort of similar to this: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173237.0

American Labor Party - SEIU and MoveOn. Big into "Hold the Banks Accountable", ending the death penalty, ending deportations and against things like "Stop and Frisk". Ilya Sheyman, Elizabeth Warren, Bill DeBlasio, and Luis Gutierrez are one of many examples.

Universalist Party - Centrist, technocrat party. Clinton, Bloomberg, Cuomo and some moderate republicans. Strongholds of this party would be unitarians (hence the name), jews and seculars.

Where do the fiscal conservatives and libertarians go?

Under any political system, there's going to be swing voters. I assume libertarianish people would be those people under the OP's system.

Also we'd have to use PR or Westminster FPTP to get any sizable 3rd party elected.
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 08:26:58 AM »

Why wouldn't working class whites vote for the Labor Party?

Presumably the ALP would have the same problems you described on your Appalachia thread. (Alienating working class whites with guns/religion comments). Or did you imagine them being more gun/pro-life friendly?
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DC Al Fine
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 10:42:06 AM »

Why wouldn't working class whites vote for the Labor Party?

Presumably the ALP would have the same problems you described on your Appalachia thread. (Alienating working class whites with guns/religion comments). Or did you imagine them being more gun/pro-life friendly?

I would assume they'd be neutral. IIRC there was some discussion of the AFL-CIO adopting a pro-choice resolution in the 1990s (at the height of its reform period after Sweeney took over) that never saw the light of day because of the issues that come with that. Isn't the NDP a broad church as far as gun rights are concerned? One would think an American Labor Party would be. Bernie Sanders has a relatively pro-gun voting record, iirc

Ok.

ALP would do better in more blue collar states. They'd do much better in places like WV, and KY. The trade off would be underperforming in places like Conneticut, suburban Philly etc. I think it's safe to say the ALP as you described them would win working class whites outside of the South.
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