Is it weird for you to watch Lief and BRTD as hawks?

[DC Al Fine]

It's pretty funny imagining Dick Cheney saying what BRTD or Lief posted and it not sounding unusual.

[DC Al Fine]

Not really? They're both on the right side here.

Good lord, the entire left of the Atlas are bloodthirsty neocons now!

You're surprised at a social democrat and a Sunni supporting war?

It's not really weird, given that they both cast their lot with the lesser of two evils party.

True.

I am enjoying agreeing with the True Leftists for once.

[DC Al Fine]

No.  What surprises me is how stupid and hypocritical the left is acting in general right now.  Most of the left supported the Libya intervention, yet suddenly now they're opposing an intervention against a regime FAR more brutal than Gaddafi's.  Yet they never even consider it. 

Intervention in Libya had a clear and easily accomplished goal, in no small part due to Libya's topography and population distribution. There were clear and identifiable points of influence and the population centers are, in comparison to Syria, pretty widely spaced. It made intervention straightforward. In contrast, Syria has multiple factions at war with one another, with the conflict being largely asymmetrical, making any potential military intervention likely to only increase bloodshed and cause all kinds of collateral damage. We also had a clear international coalition involved in the intervention, as well as UN and NATO backing. None of those things are the case here.

It's not like we're officially picking a faction and backing it.  All the move would do would be to prevent more civilian casualties by knocking out a lot of the regime's chemical plants and military bases, thereby eliminating their advantage over the rebels.  And sorry, but I don't think we should just sit around and wait until Putin gives us the thumbs up (which will be never)

Eliminating one faction's advantage sounds a lot like picking a side and backing it.