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Spanish Moss
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« on: September 21, 2012, 07:18:47 PM »

That's right BigSkyBob, victims of capitalism, and as for you, TJ, those aren't 'individual decisions', those are behaviors created by society.

One thing that gets me when people actually defend capitalism or say there are no victims, is that it's always people in the first world - especially Americans.  Ask most of South America or other parts of the third world how capitalism is faring for them... and it's atrocious.  We've had improved worker reforms in spite of it thanks to worker movements, not because of it.

As much as I hate Leninism, Cubans have some of the highest standards of living in Latin America.  There's a reason for that.
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Spanish Moss
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 11:30:55 PM »

That's right BigSkyBob, victims of capitalism, and as for you, TJ, those aren't 'individual decisions', those are behaviors created by society.

Cubans have some of the highest standards of living in Latin America.  There's a reason for that.

1) Cuba had about the highest standard of living in Latin America before Castro;
2) The Soviet Union bombed the island with foreign aid;
3) Argentina did worse; and
4) A large number of Cubans fled to the United States resulting in the remaining population having affluent relatives abroad sending remittances, etc.


1) It was a dictatorship, fascism also works quite well in terms of improving standard of living.  I'm certainly no fascist, but that's a fact.  And fascism =/= capitalism, it's "third way."
2) The Soviet Union has been gone for over 20 years.  The standard of living is still far higher.  It's been standing on its own for a generation, and given that, even as a horrible system is clearly superior to what the poor, destitute capitalist Latin American countries have.
3) What do you mean by "Argentina did worse?"
4) I'm going to have to ask you for legitimate sources (as in, news, not sites with an agenda) on how Cuban-Americans impact the standards of living in modern Cuba - I severely highly doubt Cuban-Americans are the reasons it maintains a much higher standard of living.
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