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koenkai
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« on: September 10, 2012, 08:48:49 PM »

Here's the important distinction. If Canadians and Europeans get to vote in American elections, and that's it, the GOP is doomed.

If Canadians and Europeans have live in the United States as well as vote for its leader, well, we've got a much easier incline there.
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koenkai
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 09:09:11 PM »

A lot of the foreigners I know have a highly inaccurate view of life in the United States. As in they think it is far better than it actually is. A family friend was visiting America from abroad and he was absolutely shocked as to how much we paid in taxes.

The idea that the rest of the world is a socialist hellhole/worker's paradise and the United States is a free market utopia/capitalist dictatorship is not true. As a percentage of GDP, the USA actually government spends about the same as Canada and Norway do and more than say, NZ. Though still less than most of Europe. The USA spends a lot more on education than most countries. Abortion laws in the USA are usually more lenient than laws in Europe. Europeans might be more "leftist" on some issues, like gun control and carbon emissions, but they may also be more right-leaning on other issues, like affirmative action, immigration, and nuclear power.
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koenkai
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 09:35:16 PM »

Well, Canada is open on immigration because almost all immigrants to Canada are relatively educated, skilled, etc. Quebec is only hostile because they get a free pass on racism because they're French.

I agree with what you've written. I've always been bugged by people who say "oh man every American party is right-wing abroad". That's frankly not true. I'd still suggest that Europeans and Canadians would favor the Democrats if they were suddenly transplanted in America, but it wouldn't be anywhere near the 10-1 margins that polling suggest.

That and the obvious fact that both parties would rapidly adjusting their platforms and positions if we suddenly added a huge new voting population into the United States. If we randomly added Canada to the USA, within a decade, I bet 95% of former Tories would be voting GOP and 95% of former NDPers voting Democrat. No clue where the Grits go (but probably mostly Democrat).

I'm personally be interested in what happens if we randomly integrated the voter base of a distinctly non-Western culture into the USA. Like if we threw Kyushu, Shanxi, or Busan into the United States.

Also, the New Hampshire system of alcohol distribution is the WORST. POSSIBLE. THING.
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