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Mr. Reactionary
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« on: February 08, 2023, 06:30:30 PM »
« edited: February 22, 2023, 01:07:59 PM by Mr. Reactionary »

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Senate Resolution
To amend the Constitution to disallow secession referendums and other attempts to dissolve the Union.

Be It Resolved in the Atlasian Senate Assembled, that upon ratification by 2/3rds of the Regions, the Constitution shall be amended as follows:

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STOP OUR SECESSIONISTS (S.O.S.) AMENDMENT

The following Section is to be amended under Article II of the Fifth Constitution:

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No region shall secede from this Republic but by a 3/4 vote of the citizens thereof, nor shall any Region, state, or other entity declare itself outside the jurisdiction of this Constitution so long as it remains party to this Union.

Quote from: Amendment Explanation
This Constitutional Amendment removes the possibility of secession referendums seeking to dissolve Atlasia. This aims to ensure stability and continuity of the nation and game.

Sponsor: Weatherboy
Debate on this resolution is now open.
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Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
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Political Matrix
E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2023, 10:09:06 PM »

Heres the debate from the Founders:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=220646.0
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Mr. Reactionary
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2023, 11:06:49 PM »

24 hours to object.
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Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2023, 06:00:19 PM »

Does this mean we have to withdraw recognition of Kosovo, East Timor, and South Sudan?
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Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2023, 06:10:56 PM »

I think having a lawful process with a high 3/4ths threshold is fair to all sides. Ultimately if say the federal government along with some of the Regional governments decided to militarily invade a Region illegally, declare martial law, set up internment camps, joke about starving and nuking it, and threaten to imprison its elected officials, itd be nice to have an escape hatch just in case the victim region doesnt happen to have a real lawyer as AG who can sue the invaders into oblivion.
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Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2023, 12:38:19 PM »

I move for a final vote. 24 hours to object.
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Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2023, 01:16:38 PM »

Approved. Vote will open tomorrow with others.
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Mr. Reactionary
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2023, 06:53:43 AM »

A final vote is now open until Wednesday noon eastern. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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Senate Resolution
To amend the Constitution to disallow secession referendums and other attempts to dissolve the Union.

Be It Resolved in the Atlasian Senate Assembled, that upon ratification by 2/3rds of the Regions, the Constitution shall be amended as follows:

Quote
STOP OUR SECESSIONISTS (S.O.S.) AMENDMENT

The following Section is to be amended under Article II of the Fifth Constitution:

Quote
No region shall secede from this Republic but by a 3/4 vote of the citizens thereof, nor shall any Region, state, or other entity declare itself outside the jurisdiction of this Constitution so long as it remains party to this Union.

Quote from: Amendment Explanation
This Constitutional Amendment removes the possibility of secession referendums seeking to dissolve Atlasia. This aims to ensure stability and continuity of the nation and game.
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Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
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Political Matrix
E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2023, 11:52:42 AM »

Nay
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Mr. Reactionary
blackraisin
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E: 5.45, S: -3.35

« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2023, 01:07:45 PM »

Amendment fails 4-9-1-4
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