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Mr. Reactionary
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« on: May 26, 2020, 08:29:36 PM »

All four officers involved have been fired.

It's a start.
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 10:43:36 AM »



Reminds me of Tea Party protests compared with early BLM demonstrations.


Is the implcation that cops should have set off tear gas in inside the literal state Capitol building during a legislative session over some maskless protesters? If its that the cops should not have gassed the Minnesotans then I agree.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2020, 02:57:40 PM »

Can anyone point to me any property or life damage caused by the Michigan protests?
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/grdd24/people_riot_and_destroy_minneapolis_police_cars/
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/grc5ic/another_video_of_the_riots_going_on_minneapolis/
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gra0s8/minneapolis_minnesota/

If so maybe this is the reason one protest was not dealt with violently and the other required tear gas?
Its likely the tear gas wasn't needed in the first place due to the fact that most of the protesters were peaceful and I partially oppose it but its not absolutely hypocritical.  

Again those photos showing the "peaceful" protests and armed gun owners dont show the true story. One group effectively had a small minority that was much more violent. Whether or not you consider their actions justified has little bearing to the counter reaction.


It doesn't appear to be much good in arguing. When you literally have people here claiming that visibly having a gun is "violence", "sedition", "treason", "terrorism", a "coup" and the various other extreme hyperbolic insults being lobbed around, despite having no evidence of he guns were even pointed at anyone, there is clearly no good-faith argument being made. They think their subjective fear of legal, innocuous to most behavior objectively transmutes the behavior into a felony. I noticed the same thing in January over the 2nd amendment protests in Richmond. I noticed several twiggy kale munchers blogging about "it WAS a violent protest even though no one was hurt because I personally am scared of guns and was therefore scared of the protest. That's violence!"

At the end of the day, neither protest should have been gassed. Props to the cops in Michigan for being less Fascist than the cops in Minnesota and apparently some of the posters here. Don't worry though, Badger will be here soon to claim its never, ever, ever, never acceptable to have a visible gun ever, and only racist, babyeating terrorists do so ... but its OK for Maxine Waters to whip up a mob at a gas station.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2020, 07:44:20 PM »



Reminds me of Tea Party protests compared with early BLM demonstrations.


Is the implcation that cops should have set off tear gas in inside the literal state Capitol building during a legislative session over some maskless protesters? If its that the cops should not have gassed the Minnesotans then I agree.
Furthermore, when have Tea Party protestors blocked traffic or burned down the CVS in their own neighborhood? I’m very supportive of BLM, but their tactics are making it harder to sympathize.
>Bring long gun to state capitol
Now that's a peaceful protest!

>Block an intersection
BLM has gone too far! I can't sympathize with that.

Physically blocking someone from a public street is much more confrontational and provocative than some fatties mouth breathing in the gallery with props slung over their shoulders.
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2020, 11:13:33 AM »

Disgusting.

Charge the police officer for murder and lock him up for life.

Too bad none of the bystanders showed the civil courage to toss the police officer away from the guy’s chest.

Then they'd probably be dead too. If they were willing to kill a guy over a counterfeit Hamilton imagine what they'd do if you entered their 6 foot blood circle
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2020, 01:41:41 PM »

http://www.citypages.com/news/lake-street-burned-looted-in-chaotic-night-pawn-shop-owner-arrested-for-murder/570830041
Oh this is sad news, the pawn shop owner has been arrested for murder and might even get convicted due to Minnesota's bullsh**t duty to retreat law. And now his store is free to be looted. Sad that he got arrested before the cop(obviously an investigation is due here but not an arrest yet for the owner in any sane state)


Outrageous.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2020, 01:56:51 PM »



Oh internet commies have already decided to shame two white men for working with minorities to protect an area!.
How dare they protest a cop killing but also oppose looting?
All I see here is confirmation they are just slightly weirdo Libertarians who have good intentions .

ATF and the Southern poverty lie center have been running hardcore warnings against the word "Boogaloo" of late so I'm not surprised. Hell, they made the Patriots kicker remove a tattoo for being too Boogaloo friendly.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2020, 04:53:31 PM »

All this looting and burning is complete BS.
Why are they doing this?
Local, everyday people have jobs at these places, and stores of different kind are beginning to open-up. Now they have no jobs and income.
And places like Target have been providing important essentials for people since the Pandemic, but now that mad-people looted the entire store, leaving it in shambles, it will be closed for some time.
They are destroying their own neighborhoods and harming their own neighbors.

I would be willing to bet that very few of the looters actually give a hoot about police brutality. They are poor and violent and they are using the police killing as a justification for their psychopathic behavior. The protesters and the looters are not the same group of people. If they were, they would be attacking government buildings and not private businesses.

Yeah. Like, looting is wrong regardless of the race of the looters but at the very least I totally get why minorities might be frustrated enough to act out in this way. But if you look at ths video footage in Minnesota a hell of a lot of the looters are white. I have no sympathy for them and don't buy that the looting was anything but an exploitative opportunity for them. Its just like the Silent Sam riot at UNC where a mob of mostly white students tore down a civil war veterans monument as though they were somehow oppressed by it. Had it been a predominantly black mob at least it would be understandable, but it was like all twiggy white sjw types kicking the downed statue as though it had taken their lunch money. These self righteous mobs of white activists should be where condemnation is  largely directed.
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2020, 06:13:49 PM »

They should immediately empanel a grand jury to evaluate the alleged mitigating evidence. Hopefully they'd still indict. That takes it out of the DAs hands and frees him from having to make the decision of whether or not to prosecute.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2020, 07:42:31 AM »



Not the worst thing he's lost

That'll teach those racist cops to stop abusing people.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2020, 11:04:50 AM »

Since I can't get the Facebook post option here to work (always "invalid link"), here is a screenshot of a Facebook post that encapsulates my feelings about what's going on.


More "white knights" are the last thing BLM needs right now.

Anything beginning with "Dear specific racial group" is going to be crap.
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2020, 01:26:55 PM »

Since a lot of people seem to be missing the point: No, I'm not for war.

The point is that the Boston Tea Party is seen as a "good" point in American history. It's destruction of property and income that Americans have been encouraged to celebrate nearly as long as the country has existed.

Many of the same people who look on the Boston Tea Party with rose-colored glasses are decrying the destruction in Minneapolis as absolutely unforgiveable, horrible, etc.

I'm not saying it's good, but it's completely understandable. If you listen or read Mr. King's "The Other America" speech, you'll see that relatively little has changed for minorities in the United States even since his speech, which was given 53 years ago. My mom, who is now dead, was in high school when he gave that speech.

So, yeah, the destruction sucks. But Black America has been suffering since the founding of the nation (and even before that, but we'll generously give that a pass). The Boston Tea Party is celebrated and held up as an example of American determinism for freedom, and that happened after a relatively short amount of time of dealing with the tyranny of the British Empire.

But we should completely denounce and ignore the point of protestors now because they're lashing out after living their whole lifetime in a system built to systemically hold them back?

Yeah, no.

Destruction of property isn't good, but it sure as sunlight doesn't make their point any less valid. And if the Boston Tea Party (and the many other riots and incidents of property destruction in Americans' push for freedom) shows American dedication to freedom, so too does Minneapolis.

Its possible to denounce the rioters without ignoring their point.
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2020, 10:31:16 PM »
« Edited: May 30, 2020, 08:52:37 AM by texasgurl »

Police needs to start bringing out the riot gear and engaging.

 That works until it doesn't work and then what? One of these days the police bringing out the riot gear isn't going to do anything. Most police forces in major cities are a couple thousand. NYC has the largest force and is 40k if these protest spread, there are not enough police, riot gear, nor jails to stop anything.

 One day with the way things are going you'll wake up to an America where authoritarian crackdowns in the name of "law and order" don't do anything.



Are you doing some bit as a racist Janet Reno or are you just heavily undermedicated?
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2020, 12:55:26 PM »

thinking about going to the protest in Nashville today. f the cops.

Be sure to burn a Little Caesar's on my behalf while you're down there.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2020, 10:35:38 AM »

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A criminal complaint against former Minneapolis police officer, Derek Chauvin, shows that George Floyd was "non-responsive" for nearly three minutes before Chauvin took his knee off his neck.
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The complaint filed by the Hennepin County Attorney's Office also cited a preliminary autopsy report showing that there were "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."
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Instead, the report said that it was the "combined effect of Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions, and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death."Floyd was 46 when he died. He had underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease, according to the report.

https://www.insider.com/george-floyd-non-responsive-before-officer-took-knee-off-neck-2020-5


Note the "combined effects" section.  Even in the event that Chauvin's actions were not the sole reason for Floyd's death, he still acted in an extremely reckless manner that apparently contributed to his death.

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CBS reporting that Floyd's family plans to release the results of a second-opinion independent autopsy sometime this afternoon.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/06/01/lawyer-representing-george-floyds-family-to-release-results-of-independent-autopsy/amp/

Plus, at least with civil law the eggshell plaintiff rule applies. You cant say your illegal tort wouldn't have killed a "normal" person who didn't have the preexisting conditions. You take the individual plaintiff as they are, weird medical conditions and all.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2020, 04:15:01 PM »

Where are you getting all this straw from grassr00ts

Probably his Facebook feed. Im seeing sone pretty disgusting posts although some are just attention craving opportunists. I went off on a close friend of mine for copy/pasting dumb cookie cutter crap for the likes. He was ranting about "yall said kneeling during the anthem wasn't acceptable well this is what you get. Blah blah blah black lives matter" to mad likes and privately I was just like "dude YOU were phucking whining about Kaepernick kneeling. YOU bitched about black lives matter a few months ago. Now you've become so woke in a couple of days to copy/paste talking points from a Moveon.org mailblast."
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2020, 05:05:46 PM »



DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2020, 08:51:26 PM »


DA Medical Examiner is now also calling the Floyd killing a homicide.

Im shocked. Who'd a thunk crushing someones windpipe for the length of a Quibi video would cause them to suffocate?

What are the symptoms of fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use?


Probably the same symptoms as having your airway blocked for 8 phucking minutes.
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