So... where do we, as a country, go from here?

[Mr. Reactionary]

In 2024 Democrats win the presidency and everyone's opinion on the state of the country will flip.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Honestly what Trump is planning to do with the full support of the Congress Republicans is sick.  Approving two pipelines that the entire environmental movement and Native Americans all around the country oppose, threats to bring the feds to Chicago, gutting healthcare for a lot of people, building a wall on the border with a friendly neighbor country.  This is all crazy stuff, and I feel that the end of the United States as a country is near.

Is this parody? Other than the Chicago thing which wont happen because its illegal every other position you mentioned is within the political mainstream even if you dont agree with the policy itself. We already have pipelines. We already have barricades on the border. Obama certainly gutted a lot of already insured people's healthcare. The Mexico city policy has flipped 4 times since Reagan. Sometimes other people's opinions prevail over your own.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Honestly what Trump is planning to do with the full support of the Congress Republicans is sick.  Approving two pipelines that the entire environmental movement and Native Americans all around the country oppose, threats to bring the feds to Chicago, gutting healthcare for a lot of people, building a wall on the border with a friendly neighbor country.  This is all crazy stuff, and I feel that the end of the United States as a country is near.

Is this parody? Other than the Chicago thing which wont happen because its illegal every other position you mentioned is within the political mainstream even if you dont agree with the policy itself. We already have pipelines. We already have barricades on the border. Obama certainly gutted a lot of already insured people's healthcare. The Mexico city policy has flipped 4 times since Reagan. Sometimes other people's opinions prevail over your own.

Mr. Reactionary is right. It's important to remember many of Trump's disgusting and unethical policies are in fact pillars of the Republican platform and have been for decades.

Exactly. This shouldn't be uniquely traumatic for the left.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Honestly what Trump is planning to do with the full support of the Congress Republicans is sick.  Approving two pipelines that the entire environmental movement and Native Americans all around the country oppose, threats to bring the feds to Chicago, gutting healthcare for a lot of people, building a wall on the border with a friendly neighbor country.  This is all crazy stuff, and I feel that the end of the United States as a country is near.

Is this parody? Other than the Chicago thing which wont happen because its illegal every other position you mentioned is within the political mainstream even if you dont agree with the policy itself. We already have pipelines. We already have barricades on the border. Obama certainly gutted a lot of already insured people's healthcare. The Mexico city policy has flipped 4 times since Reagan. Sometimes other people's opinions prevail over your own.

Mr. Reactionary is right. It's important to remember many of Trump's disgusting and unethical policies are in fact pillars of the Republican platform and have been for decades.

Exactly. This shouldn't be uniquely traumatic for the left.

In case you didn't get it, publicunofficial was accusing Republicans of being disgusting and unethical.

They are. Im not a republican. I dont like them or Trump. I just dont like the blatant dishonesty of the other side either. Trump is most likely going to be a sh**tty president. Every president since ive been alive has been sh**tty. This is not some uniquely apocalyptic situation. Its just typical hackery from both sides. Its 2009 - 2011 with the parties flipped. GOP will unfairly ram stuff through and the Dems will unfairly pretend that doing so is dictatorial.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Honestly what Trump is planning to do with the full support of the Congress Republicans is sick.  Approving two pipelines that the entire environmental movement and Native Americans all around the country oppose, threats to bring the feds to Chicago, gutting healthcare for a lot of people, building a wall on the border with a friendly neighbor country.  This is all crazy stuff, and I feel that the end of the United States as a country is near.

Is this parody? Other than the Chicago thing which wont happen because its illegal every other position you mentioned is within the political mainstream even if you dont agree with the policy itself. We already have pipelines. We already have barricades on the border. Obama certainly gutted a lot of already insured people's healthcare. The Mexico city policy has flipped 4 times since Reagan. Sometimes other people's opinions prevail over your own.

Mr. Reactionary is right. It's important to remember many of Trump's disgusting and unethical policies are in fact pillars of the Republican platform and have been for decades.

Exactly. This shouldn't be uniquely traumatic for the left.

In case you didn't get it, publicunofficial was accusing Republicans of being disgusting and unethical.

They are. Im not a republican. I dont like them or Trump. I just dont like the blatant dishonesty of the other side either. Trump is most likely going to be a sh**tty president. Every president since ive been alive has been sh**tty. This is not some uniquely apocalyptic situation. Its just typical hackery from both sides. Its 2009 - 2011 with the parties flipped. GOP will unfairly ram stuff through and the Dems will unfairly pretend that doing so is dictatorial.

Is this really comparable to 2009-2011? I was still too young when Obama was first elected to be paying close attention to politics, but this presidency feels exceptionally different in that I truly believe there is a real potential for catastrophic disaster as opposed to when Obama was first elected. Trump is a uniquely terrifying President, and here's a few reasons why:

- No diplomatic or governmental experience.
- No depth of policy knowledge
- Short tempered and easily provoked
- Either extremely gullible or a bold faced liar (maybe both)

These are just the ones I can list off the top of my head, but can you name me a modern president that possessed all of these traits? He's already picking fights with Mexico and China. He's claiming that 3-5 million people voted illegally in the 2016 presidential election. He's playing coy with the prospect of torture. He's putting gag orders on government agencies. He's obsessing over crowd sizes and tv ratings. He's threatening to send the Feds to inner cities. He's being, I believe, overly hostile towards the press. This is not normal behavior.

I hope to god that I'm wrong, but I just don't think you can compare Trump to any other modern president. He is totally unqualified for this job, and I think that's a dangerous thing.

After 2008 pubs thought Obama would suspend the constitution and put people in fema camps for praying. He was going to take our guns, destroy free enterprise, ramp up spying, and institute a dictatorship. Google "gather your armies ad". 2009 and 2010 was heavy heavy heavy into apocalyptic rhetoric on the right. As someone who encountered this and later rejected these views, let me tell you this is the same thing in reverse. If your only evidence is that you dislike the politician and politician "seems" bad or dangerous or unstable or inexperienced or godless or fake, then odds are its just typical partisan fears. Im not saying you shouldn't be upset; the past 8 years upset me, but our system will survive. Its survived worse than a balding egotist with small hands. Hell, I'm only 25 and Trump isnt even the 1st probable rapist president in my lifetime. Between the internet and the constitution there will be no dictatorship.