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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,209
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« on: April 22, 2019, 07:38:57 PM »

Warren is killing this town hall

She’s really making me consider supporting her. She’s coming across as knowledgeable, personable, and just plain real. When she talks, I believe her.

I don’t know where the idea that she’s “shrill” or “uncharismatic” comes from. She’s probably the most likeable of all the female candidates.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 02:11:56 PM »

Who keeps unstickying these campaign threads?
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2019, 07:25:15 AM »

Looks like Warren might not be such a weak general election candidate after all.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/15/donald-trump-elizabeth-warren-2020-election-1365816
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Trump aides and their allies at the Republican National Committee, who initially believed their money and manpower were better focused elsewhere, are digging up opposition research, deploying camera-wielding trackers, and preparing to brand Warren as a liberal extremist. The reassessment of Warren, confirmed in conversations with more than a half-dozen Trump advisers, reflects the volatility of the massive Democratic primary and how the reelection campaign is reacting to it.

The Trump team — including the president himself — had been focused almost exclusively on Joe Biden to this point. But Warren’s rise now has them thinking she could pose a serious threat in a general election. Warren’s disciplined style, populist-infused speeches, and perceived ability to win over suburban female voters, Trump advisers concede, has raised concerns.

Campaign pollster John McLaughlin has sounded the alarm internally, stressing that Warren’s attacks on Trump threaten to undercut his support from the working-class voters who propelled him to the presidency.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2019, 12:03:39 PM »

Warren/Castro is the best choice for Dems. Both are putting together great progressive policies and having Castro on the ticket will help boost Latino turnout.
Castro has been dropping fire policy proposals. He would be an amazing surrogate in TX, AZ, and for the burgeoning Latino electorate in GA. I hope she picks him!

O’Rourke gives nearly  all the same benefits Castro does, but is actually charismatic and a good campaigner.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2019, 11:58:57 PM »

I think Warren has gotten the most positive coverage so far in the primary (aside from maybe Buttigieg) and her’s has been almost entirely focused on her policy proposals.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2019, 03:42:05 PM »

The Sanders camp has Susan Sarandon out campaigning at rallies saying Bernie is “not someone who used to be a Republican”.

Why? I know Bernie doesn’t look at the other candidates the way his aides do. But why does he keep bringing toxic people like Sarandon and Sirota into his campaign? This was an obvious dig at Warren, who Bernie has defended at nearly every turn.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2019, 12:28:53 AM »

One of the key differences between Sanders and Warren is that Sanders is fundamentally a savior populist.  Bernie wants you to believe that:
  • Everyone who's woke supports his policies, and those who oppose him have been hoodwinked by corporate lies
  • All other politicians are 100% corrupt, bought and paid for by corporations.  That's why they won't support his policies.
  • The Democratic Party and all its affiliates are 100% enslaved to corporations, that is why they won't rig the primary for him and make him king of the party.
  • Any policies other than his own will doom the country... no, the planet! to death and destruction, misery and poverty.
  • He is the only one who can rescue is, because he is the only pure, non-corrupted politician in America.
  • Any tactics, no matter how dishonest or vicious, or how ostensibly friendly the targets, are therefore justified in the name of rescuing the planet.  The stakes are just too high.

Warren doesn't do most of this crap.

She does tend to demonize opposing policies rather than debating on their merits, but it doesn't rise to the level of Bernie "Joe Biden's health care plan is equivalent to 13 9/11s" Sanders.

She doesn't attack the Democratic Party or other Democrats.

She doesn't accuse every other politician of being bought-and-paid-for by big corporations.  There's no "Paid for by you (not the millionaires and billionaires)" on her ads.

She doesn't claim, like Trump, to be the only one who can rescue America.  There's no savior complex with Warren.

She doesn't use absurd hyperbole to exacerbate the problems and solutions she's discussing, which means real discussions can be had rather than every disagreement becoming "why do you want 50 million people to die."

She doesn't staff her campaign with extreme Twitter aggros and Jill Stein flunkies like Nina Turner, David Sirota, Briahna Gray, or Winnie Wong, or recruit as surrogates lunatics like Linda Sarsour, Susan Sarandon, RoseAnn DeMoro, Killer Mike, Cornel West, Shaun King, everyone in the TYT Network, and all these horseshoe-theory conspiracy wackos like Jimmy Dore.  That is to say, she isn't proudly building a movement of the absolute worst people calling themselves leftists.

She's just running for president, not trying to start a personality cult where supporting her becomes your entire identity and you envelop yourself in a world of disingenuous alternative media sources that are openly biased in her favor and sh*t all over everyone else.

She isn't going to start a Super PAC to recruit primary opponents for other Dem senators if she loses.

Is it any wonder Democratic Party insiders prefer her over Bernie?

And no, having a preference for a candidate is not "rigging."  You have to actually take an action to rig the primary for it to be "rigging."  Otherwise it's just an "endorsement."

I am a Bernie 2016 voter who switched to vote for Trump for exactly the reasons you listed above. You see, as sjoyce said, the Democratic party is largely bankrolled by millionaires and billionaires. This is despite saying they are a "grassroots movement" and funded by small donors.

This is outright unacceptable for me - I joined the Republican party in protest to teach the Democrats a lesson. They deserve to lose for as long as they pull this kind of stuff. If the Democrats can't see the light and become a truly progressive party in all aspects, they aren't worthy of my vote.
So... you decided to vote Republican? That makes total sense
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2019, 11:17:21 AM »

This is great but I fear she might’ve peaked too early. Up to now Warren’s gotten pretty positive media coverage. Her competitors and the media might train more fire on her now.

But then the question becomes, what actual vulnerabilities does she have to be exploited? Their best bet might be on M4A, but even that is tenuous.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2019, 07:23:54 PM »

This is great but I fear she might’ve peaked too early. Up to now Warren’s gotten pretty positive media coverage. Her competitors and the media might train more fire on her now.

But then the question becomes, what actual vulnerabilities does she have to be exploited? Their best bet might be on M4A, but even that is tenuous.

What makes you think she's peaking? She's only in the low 20s. Plenty of room to grow.

I’m just worried how her numbers will hold up once the media turns on her and she starts facing more scrutiny. She’s done well so far, and I hope she can keep it up.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2019, 10:56:26 PM »

Warren had a moment at the town hall tonight.



It’s moments like these (which she has a lot of) that constantly make me question how people make the argument that Warren isn’t charismatic or likeable. Hillary never had moments like these last cycle. Warren’s probably one of the genuinely funniest candidates in the race.
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Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,209
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2019, 05:31:38 PM »

The way people are whoring themselves out to the billionaire class over a proposed 2% tax increase that only begins after a huge amount of money has been accumulated is very odd. Do people not realize how much money these people have? Or how much their fortunes grow every year through investments or growth in their business. We're literally talking about a drop in the bucket to give the working class some programs that will make a huge tangible difference in their everyday lives.

 What is the dilemma here folks?

 A 2 cent wealth tax isn't radical, it's literally one of the most sober and rational policy proposals in decades.


How did it drop back down to 2% from 6% ?


It’s always been 2%... that’s where Warren’s “2 cents” chant comes from.
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