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Oldiesfreak1854
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« on: March 03, 2013, 02:20:32 PM »

Keep busting unions and continue to encourage white working class voters to come out for the GOP because of social issues.
Don't you mean downplaying social issues to get white working class votes?  If they want to carry PA in the future, that's what they have to to (espscially with the wealthy and middle-class suburbanites.)
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 08:25:21 AM »

Keep busting unions and continue to encourage white working class voters to come out for the GOP because of social issues.
Don't you mean downplaying social issues to get white working class votes?  If they want to carry PA in the future, that's what they have to to (espscially with the wealthy and middle-class suburbanites.)


No, the white working class in Pennsylvania is more socially conservative than the nation as a whole.  But yeah, if they want to win white "middle-class" and wealthy voters then they would have to moderate on social issues but then in turn they would alienate the SoCon working class voters who are naturally more inclined towards the Democrats on economic issues.
They wouldn't have to moderate on social issues, they'd just have to downplay them.  That's the key.

Pennsylvania, like Michigan and Wisconsin, is a swing state.  However, in all of those states, the presidential nominees seem to remain close, and Republicans always think they have a chance to carry those states, but then they lose at the last minute.  As I've said before, it's like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 02:49:39 PM »

Michigan is a swing state.  Bush only lost it by 5 points in 2000 and 3 points in 2004.  Obama won it pretty comfortably in 2008 and 2012, but those were Democrat years nationally.  Michigan was considered a swing state in 2004, and only two presidential elections don't change that.  Republicans currently control the governor's office, the attorney general's office (since 2002), and the secretary of state's office (since 1994).
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 09:12:07 PM »

Michigan is a swing state.  Bush only lost it by 5 points in 2000 and 3 points in 2004.  Obama won it pretty comfortably in 2008 and 2012, but those were Democrat years nationally.  Michigan was considered a swing state in 2004, and only two presidential elections don't change that.  Republicans currently control the governor's office, the attorney general's office (since 2002), and the secretary of state's office (since 1994).

The Republican Governor won in 2010 in the best year in decades for Republicans as a stealth candidate, and he is now wildly unpopular as is the Republican-dominated State Legislature. The Democratic Senator up for re-election won in a landslide in 2012.

Michigan becomes an R state if the Hard Right is able to convince Michiganders that they appreciate freedom from abortion and from high wages, but until then... the Governor is about as unpopular as Commies were in Poland in 1989.
True, but I don't think Snyder will run again.  I don't see any sign or reason he will.  And I would hardly call Stabenow's win a landslide, although it certainly was impressive.  It probably had more to do with Hoekstra's weakness as a candidate than Stabenow being popular. 
As for RTW, wages have already been falling in Michigan without it.    The unions are using scare tactics because they want to keep their monopoly on Michigan's workforce and keep making millions off of their union dues.
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