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Sol
Junior Chimp
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« on: January 26, 2014, 09:38:50 PM »

There's been a bit of a kerfuffle in the blogosphere recently over a recent review of 12 Years A Slave by Slate critic Dana Stevens. The main thrust of the controversy has been this section of the article:

I guess, simply put, I’m just not sure I’m down with body horror as a directorial approach for a movie on this subject. After a certain point it seems to serve more to shut out (and gross out) the audience than to make them think, feel, and engage...

But when the white overseers and masters—particularly Fassbender’s red-bearded supervillain, but to a lesser degree the figures played by Paul Dano, Paul Giamatti, and Benedict Cumberbatch—show up, there’s sometimes the hint of a prurient horror-movie vibe that can feel exploitive. I felt this when Dano’s rather theatrically vile character sang that hideous “Run, n*****, run” song in close-up. Or in the many scenes when Fassbender (who, on a second viewing, I find to be laying it on a little thick) wanders his plantation with a bottle in hand, circling like a predator, looking for someone to humiliate and abuse. Last week’s painful dustup at the New York Film Critics Circle aside, I think there’s a grain of truth in Armond White’s characterization of 12 Years in his original review as relating to the genre of “torture porn” (though I disagree that McQueen’s purpose in using this approach is “to make white people feel good about their own guilt.”)

(Bolded sections revised to avoid slurs.)

This approach has come under fire from blogger Chauncey DeVega, who in this article on Alternet, wrote a long critique of Stevens's article.

I would like to return  to my earlier conversation about film critic Dana Stevens' recent essay at  Slate magazine on the movie 12 Years a Slave. As I wrote  here, white privilege damages the thinking process of otherwise decent white folks because it actually convinces them that they can alter empirical reality to fit their own priors.

In the case of Slate's Dana Stevens, white privilege and the white racial frame permitted her--in a natural and unthinking way--to assume that the autobiography upon with the movie 12 Years a Slave is based, must somehow be an "inaccurate" representation of anti-black violence by whites during the Southern slave regime in the United States.

What do you think about this? Is Stevens's disbelief of 12 Years A Slave rooted in sense of white privilege? In a broader context, are white perceptions of slavery and racism more generally distorted by narratives of white privilege- to skew towards a view which paints white people as good guys, even when massively unwarranted?

Oh, and please try to avoid a flamewar. This is an interesting topic, y'all, and it doesn't need to be ruined by such things.
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Sol
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 09:53:53 AM »

It doesn't matter whether Chauncey DeVega are right or not. The moment she decided to use the term "White Privilege", the discussion are over and the name calling have begun.
White Privilege is a really useful concept, IMO- it represents a phenomenon which definitely exists in our culture. I'm not quite sure how it functions as name-calling- explain?
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Sol
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2014, 01:27:23 PM »

It doesn't matter whether Chauncey DeVega are right or not. The moment she decided to use the term "White Privilege", the discussion are over and the name calling have begun.
White Privilege is a really useful concept, IMO- it represents a phenomenon which definitely exists in our culture. I'm not quite sure how it functions as name-calling- explain?

Whether the concept are useful as theorectic construction are a lot different than whether it's a good idea calling people out for it.

It's always a good idea to ask yourself whether the thing you believe are a result of social advantage. Do I not care about abortion because I'm a man as example are a good idea to ask yourself.

But when you say other people only believe the things they believe because of a social advantage, it's pure name calling, no different than calling people racist, volvo driving latte drinking liberal, unpatriotic etc. It's the argument of people who are not willing to back up their argument, but try to silence their opposition by belittle them.

On the Atlas, we talk about how cultural cleavages like social class or gender affect people's perceptions (usually in the context of voting). What makes race any different from that?
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Sol
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2014, 03:25:12 PM »

I don't know- the article was pretty well though out- it wasn't just "lol white people are racists!!1!!
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