Israel Passes Law Declaring Itself Nation-State of the Jewish People

[Velasco]

The legal consecration of the already existing spacial segregation is a tragedy and a sign that Israel might evolve towards undemocratic forms of state. Terrible development.

[Velasco]

The legal consecration of the already existing spacial segregation is a tragedy and a sign that Israel might evolve towards undemocratic forms of state. Terrible development.

This part was taken out of the law because President Rivlin didn't like it.

That's not quite accurate. No one in Likud cares what Rivlin thinks today. It was probably taken out because the Attorney General and other legal officials voiced opposition, and it was clear it wouldn't pass the Supreme Court.

OK, it's my fault for not having paid attention in the last week. Everything related with Israel and Palestine provokes me a sense of bitterness and I'm not always in the mood.

From what I checked in the news, this law consecrates the discrimination of minorities within the State of Israel. It's still a terrible development and is clearly indicative of the undemocratic nature of the state envisioned by Israeli extremists.

I've read something about other legislative projects this Israeli administration wants to pass. It's truly depressing.

[Velasco]

The left only cares about minorities these days. No wonder they can't get majorities to vote for them anymore.

If you think in that way about minorities, then I'll have to deduce that you're lacking the necessry historical awareness about your own people.

[Velasco]

The path for a two state solution is dead since the days of Ariel Sharon, the man who said that Palestinians would rather have their state in Finland. Just as a reminder, the remaining Palestinian lands are splitted between the West Bank and Gaza. The West Bank is heavily affected by land grabbing, settlements and roads for the exclusive use of the Israeli army and the colonists. A viable Palestinian state is physically and economically impossible. Hence the only way left is the Single State Solution in the lands of the former Mandatory Palestine. I know this is not exactly the Zionist dream of a Jewish State in Palestine, but it's the only fair and democratic solution. In my opinion good willing, aware and concerned people within the Sate of Israel should be pushing for:
 
1) Putting an end ignominious military occupation

2) Granting citizenship rights to the population currently under military occupation.

[Velasco]

By the way, the law consecrating the Jewishness State is not the only new development. Recently it was passed a law limiting the access of Palestinians to Court in Israel.

 http://HTTP://www.Hertz.com/Israel's/.-1.6271237

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[Velasco]

Pakistan and Bangladesh parted ways. I doubt that's a good example. A Palestinian state in the fragmented West Bank and the overpopulated open-air jail called Gaza could no survive by itself.

Israeli historian Ilan Pappé said the following to a Spanish journalist:

"If Israel is not able to sign peace agreements with its neighbours, it will end like the Crusaders. We will be expelled within 50. 100 or 200 years. We are a strange body embedded in the region".

Writer David Grossman says that despite the overwhelming military power of Israel (dozens of nuclear bombs, combat aircraft, tanks) and the weakness of the people that Israel fights on the ground, in their minds Israelis are still victims. Certainly that country has a complex and singular psychology.

Don't need to remember that the State of Israel is responsible for war crimes and human rights violations. Every Israeli administration in the last two decades is more fanatic and extremist than the precedent. The only country that could force them to accept a solution is unwilling to do anything. Even Obama was unable to force Bibi to give in. It's incredible.

[Velasco]

I think, David, that if you care about the survival of the Israeli state in the long run, you should pay attention to the thoughts of Mr Pappé. Notice that he is an Israeli academician and not an outsider like me. It's always preferable to sign peace treaties with your neighbours to the advocacy of perennial war. Learn from own history and don't make mistakes. Stop discriminating non-Jews within your state, put an end to the occupation, forget Judea and Samaria and look for better arrangements with the surrounding countries.

[Velasco]

Are you implying that someone here bears malice or bad faith towards Jewish people? Is that the usual straw man that equals criticism of the Israeli government with antisemitism? I hope you aren't. Thankfully not all the Jewish people is in ultranationalist stances and there are members of said community with the necessary awareness, either in Israel or abroad. For instance, the people that I quoted before.

[Velasco]

Daniel Barenboim: "This racist new law makes me ashamed to be Israeli "

 "Israeli Arabs are being made second-class citizens. This form of apartheid violates the founding commitment to equality "

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/23/israel-racist-new-law-ashamed-apartheid-daniel-barenboim

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