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Velasco
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« on: July 03, 2013, 02:51:32 PM »

Bravo!!!!

I won't ask you how could you manage with all municipalities in Castile, Catalonia, Aragon or Valencia. I guess France was more complicated.

Talk about a blue Spain...

I didn't know that Gomera was a red island in an ocean of blue Canaries.


Yes, it's a socialist fiefdom since the 80's. In fact the 2011 results for PSOE were discreet, if not bad. I think Hash knows something about.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 04:53:33 PM »
« Edited: July 03, 2013, 04:56:16 PM by I Am Damo Suzuki »

Talk about a blue Spain...

I didn't know that Gomera was a red island in an ocean of blue Canaries.

It was German hippie land in the early-mid 1980s, especially Valle Gran Rey, and later became an eco-tourism site for its mountain forests. That may have influenced locals (especially the younger part of them).

It might be a plausible explanation, but the strength of socialists in La Gomera has more relation with Casimiro Curbelo. As Hash said, it was president of the Cabildo since 1991 and previously mayor of San Sebastián (the island's capital, 1983-1986). Curbelo has governed La Gomera with a paternalistic style (some people say he's a cacique). There was a time in which burials were paid by the Cabildo.

Hippies in the smaller islands in the Canaries were tending to live in their own ghetto (language and cultural barriers) and I think they had very little influence in local population. From my own experience, I think people in the island is a bit distrustful and probably not so permeable to external influences in the past. Eco-tourism development is relatively recent. On the other hand, Valle Gran Rey was traditionally a CC's (center-right, regionalist) enclave in the red island.

I met several old hippies and other foreigners living in La Palma, a place that I'd say it's socially conservative like La Gomera (it has eco-tourism and beautiful mountain forests as well). There are people totally integrated with the local population, but others live segregated. Once I visited with some friends a German woman who was living about 20 years in a beautiful rural home in the south of La Palma and she knew very few words in Spanish language. There are some hippy enclaves in the traditionally isolated north of the island (Garafía, Las Tricias).
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 06:09:29 AM »

Spain always looks weird with Portugal removed.

It's a good reason to establish the Iberian Federation Grin
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 05:44:21 PM »

What's with the string of PSOE towns along the Aragonese-Catalan border?

Basically all the red towns belong to the Aragonese region (comarca) of Ribagorza (in Catalan, Ribagorça), in the valley of Noguera Ribagorzana. Also, they belong to a borderline Catalan-speaking area known as La Franja or Franja de Ponent ("Western Strip"). Many people have Catalan as a mother tongue, but Catalan nationalism has not penetrated in this part of Aragon. Few months ago, the PP-Regionalist government of Aragon passed a ridiculous linguistic law which changes the name of the Catalan language spoken in Aragon into something like " Aragonese Proper Language of the Oriental Area".  In one of these small red towns called Bonansa were born PSOE leader Marcelino Iglesias, a former president of Aragon, and Joaquim Maurín a member of the anarchist CNT in the 20s and POUM leader in the 30s. PP won in Graus, the Ribagorza capital. On the other side of the border, PSC used to perform well in Alta Ribagorça.
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