Reps and Religion?

[Gabu]

My point about murder is, where did it stem from as being wrong?  It stemmed Biblically from Cain and Abel - so all of humanity thinks it's wrong (other than VERY rare sectors) - so even though the USSR was atheistic, it stemmed from Christianity, because Chrsitianity stemmed from Judaism in the Old Testament.

I'm fairly sure that people already weren't okay with murder before Christianity even existed.  Do you honestly think that people need God to tell them that it's a bad idea to go around killing everyone you see?

[Gabu]

No - they weren't, but before written law, God operated using the conscience to convey right and wrong.

Does that even have any Biblical origin behind it, or are you just making stuff up now?  I can't recall reading one single mention of the notion of conscience in the Bible.

[Gabu]

No - they weren't, but before written law, God operated using the conscience to convey right and wrong.

Does that even have any Biblical origin behind it, or are you just making stuff up now?  I can't recall reading one single mention of the notion of conscience in the Bible.

Not directly, but being a dispensationalist, I believe that it falls in the dispensation of Conscience - so is it "made up" yes - but it's a principle.  Applied principles - kinda like Calvinism and Arminianism.

So, basically, your arguments work if you already believed the assumptions leading to them, but they don't if you didn't.

Congratulations; you've successfully built a tautology, but don't expect to actually convince anyone of anything.

Although I have to ask: if something has no Biblical origin, how exactly does one come to treat it as if it were equal to something within the Bible?

[Gabu]

That's my whole point - people believe different things, but only the Christians are the ones believing the right thing.

Okay, but what's the point of saying so?  Does it make you feel better about yourself, or do you honestly think other people will be convinced by your saying that you're right?

And this stuff is Biblical, it's just not quoted.  Just like people claim that Jesus wasn't God becuase he never said "I am God" - but he said other things that mean exactly the same thing.

Where is it from, then?