What do these people have in common?

[Gabu]

I'm going to venture a wild guess that they're all doing something relating to illegal immigration.

[Gabu]

Bingo.

Getting killed by them.

Oh, okay.

Well, Timothy McVeigh was born in America and was therefore a US citizen.  He killed 168 people.  So were John Wayne Gacy and Charles Manson. Whoever these illegal immigrants are, they clearly have nothing on US citizens.

Since nobody on this board has ever asserted that all illegal immigrants are good people, this is rather a pointless discussion.

[Gabu]

Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

And if we stopped all immigration, we could eliminate murders that involved legal immigrants... and if we stopped births, we could eliminate all murders!

Of course, the point is that illegal immigrants are not legimitately part of the country, which is a fair point.  I'm not even arguing that we shouldn't stop illegal immigrants from entering the country.  I don't see anything wrong with stopping them, in fact.  I support making legal immigration not take years in order to better facilitate the admittance of qualified people and on cracking down on illegal immigration, even if I really don't care and even if it's not exactly a hot-button topic for me.  I'm just saying that you're trying to refute an argument that has never even been made, and I have no idea why you're doing it.  Nobody has ever said that all illegal immigrants are good people.