Which country is/was more free?

[Gabu]

The answer is clearly apartheid South Africa, as is evidenced by the millions upon millions of dissenters who are murdered for opposing the government in modern day Germany.

OH WAIT

[Gabu]

What's most hilarious is the basis of AuH2O's argument is that basically Germany has banned Neo-Nazi organizations. Because we all know that in apartheid South Africa political activity was never banned or anything.

Well, at least he bases it on something that actually happened, unlike his accusations that Canada is the same.

[Gabu]

Obviously modern day Germany. How is this even a question?

AuH2O knows no bounds.

[Gabu]

There is a huge difference between moral relativism, and the actual belief that there is no truth.

The idea that there is no truth is a contradiction in itself that it says there is no truth, which is a statement that intends to be true when in fact, if there is no truth, it cannot be true.  I imagine people who don't believe in truth must have their heads spinning in circles.  By the way, I don't see much difference between the two beliefs; obviously you need to be pretty crazy to believe either.

Personally, my scientific opinion on it is that there is a fundamental truth to everything (I see no logic in this not being the case - everything must be something, or else there would be nothing), but that it may well be impossible to ever know if what we have is indeed that truth.

I also don't feel that the chance of that impossibility should impede us from trying, however, an idea which would be lost on opebo.