Marital rape

[Gabu]

Yes/Yes.

Getting married does not mean that you can now do illegal things to your spouse.

[Gabu]

I find it strange that a man is so committed to an anti-male feminist slant on things.  While I don't agree with rape, there are other ways to look at the problem than just the feminist angle.  Since the feminist angle has not proven to be particularly effective, maybe we should look at other alternatives.

My comments were based on the theoretical circumstance in which we know for sure that the man was having forcible sex with an unwilling wife.  Of course, things get murkier where we have the case that it could be that the wife consented to sex and is now attempting to screw the man over for it, but I presumed that we weren't talking about that part of things.

[Gabu]

Of course, things get murkier where we have the case that it could be that the wife consented to sex and is now attempting to screw the man over for it, but I presumed that we weren't talking about that part of things.

Well, this is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about as a potential issue.  It happens all the time, especially if the relationship is not solid, and the woman is angling for a better divorce settlement.  Don't think this type of thing doesn't happen.

I've observed abusive relationships, and in most cases, the abuse is a two-way street.  And when it's not, it is not always the woman who is the victim.  The idea that every case of domestic abuse is a purely innocent woman being terrorized and raped by a cruel and violent man (do the feminists think there is any other kind?) is mostly a fantasy.  It's actually far more complicated than that.

Well, yes.  I'm not saying that anything you've said above isn't true, only that my post was talking about marital rape itself, not any of the issues surrounding the difficulty in proving that it occurred.

[Gabu]

It just seems a bit of a strange concept.

Well, picture in your mind what you think of when you hear the word "rape".

Now take the people in that picture and make them husband and wife instead of simply two unrelated people.

There, now you have a clear mental picture of what marital rape is.

[Gabu]

Here's the kick. I'm not even diagreeing with them!

All I did was remark that the concept is strange and that I have a hard time imagining how this sort of thing happens.  But there really are times that you can't have a conversation with a liberal, any liberal, no matter how reasonable they may seem.

Um, your post made it sound like you didn't understand what marital rape was, so I was attempting to explain.

I'm sorry if it came off in a condescending manner.