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Gabu
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« on: December 02, 2004, 03:08:50 PM »

the law should also strictly prohibit homosexual behavior

If two gay people, neither of whom have AIDS, have sex, nothing will happen whatsoever.  If two straight people, one of whom have AIDS, have sex, the one who doesn't have it has a very real chance of getting it.  The moral of this story is that banning "homosexual behavior" is not going to eliminate AIDS, no matter what you may want to think.

I personally think that the best solution to it is as much education about this subject as possible.  You can't realistically expect people to suddenly stop partaking in "homosexual behavior" and in drug use involving hypodermic needles by simply making it illegal (and isn't the latter already illegal?).
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Gabu
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2004, 03:38:04 PM »

Well, according to the World Almanac:
In men, 85.4% of AIDS deaths are from men who have sex with men, injecting drug use, and gay sex & drug use.

Yeah.  Guess what?  The majority of gay people probably don't have AIDS.  Yes, it is a fact that anal sex, due to the larger amount of tissue tearing that occurs through it, is more likely to result in the propogation of HIV, but if neither participant has HIV in the first place, absolutely nothing will happen.  Gay people are not born with HIV to spread to others.

In women, 40.3% of AIDS deaths are from injecting drug use.

Drug use is already illegal.  What more should we do about it?

The solution entails excluding homosexuals from the rest of society.

I'm seriously, seriously going to hope for your sake that this statement is a joke.
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Gabu
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2004, 03:57:49 PM »

lol, we just simultaneously flaunted social darwinism in separate threads.

Check the seatbelt law disscussion.

Ever heard and/or seen Jeff Foxworthy's stand-up act called "Stupid People"?

This is reminding me of it. Wink
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Gabu
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2004, 08:06:58 PM »

But likewise, statistically, the majority of people with AIDS are gay or are drug users.  We should enforce tougher penalties on drug users and on homosexuals.

As Ilikeverin said, the fact that the majority of people with AIDS are gay or drug users does not mean that being gay or that being a drug user implies that you have AIDS.

Education is also key.  Our schools should be teaching acceptance of people of other cultures, not the tolerance of homosexuals and drug addicts.  These people are the scum of society and should be treated as outcasts.  Maybe put in prison or mental institutions to solve their problems and not infect the rest of us.

And if those cultures tolerate homosexuals and drug addicts...?

I'm curious what "education" you're advocating.  Would this be the same "education" Winston Smith goes through in 1984?

Remember, God made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve.

Not this tired argument again.  It doesn't work for people that don't believe in Adam and Eve.
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Gabu
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2004, 08:24:35 PM »

HELLLLLOOOOOOOOO!

You are saying "The majority of people with AIDS are gay, therefore the majority of gay people have AIDS"

That's like saying "A square is a rectangle, therefore a rectangle is a square"

STOP USING FAULTY LOGIC!

Hello...I was saying it was WRONG to assume the number of gay people have AIDS.  Who knows, it could be a great percentage of gays, it could be a small percentage.  I am saying, and have the stats to prove it that the majority of AIDS patients are gay or drug addicts.

Well, okay, here's some hard facts:

The number of gay people in America is reportedly approximately 1.2 million.

The number of incidences of AIDS in men having sex with men was approximately 1000 in 1995.

While these are not for the same years, this indicates that a very, very small percentage of the total gay population actually has AIDS, just as it's true that a very, very small percentage of the total population of the United States has AIDS.

Can we please stop acting as if every gay man in existence has AIDS now?
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Gabu
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2004, 10:46:09 PM »

A more effective strategy would be to encourage monogamous relationships among homosexuals - you won't stop them from being homosexual, and you won't be able to illegalize it.

This is why I usually just give up when people use the argument that has been seen in this topic.  They honestly believe that homosexuality is a curable disorder and that if you just attack homosexuality enough, homosexuals will "convert" to heterosexuality.
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