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Sec. of State Superique
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« on: May 28, 2014, 05:17:43 PM »

The Secretary of External Affairs support this piece of legislation. It's from our understanding that the new government of Petro Poroshenko will not be allied with neo-nazi forces and we are totally favorable of helping Ukraine during this important moment of their political life. In any case, it wouldn't be bad to add a specific clause specifying that in case that the Ukrainian Government  promote human right abuses, then we funds should be cut. The funds shall only be allowed if the Ukrainian Government comply with Democracy, the rule of Law and the respect of minorities.

Moreover, we believe that those independent movements in East Ukraine are extremely dangerous for their country and that those insurgencies don't represent the majority of the population that lives in the regions were those protests are happening. We honestly and sincerely hope that a just solution for that matter arrives and we would not oppose a reform for more Oblast's Autonomy if the parties involved on that issue approve that.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2014, 10:11:27 AM »

I don't think any single body is trustworthy enough to be handed $9 billion.  (and yes that includes the Atlasian Senate Tongue)

So how about a collection of bodies instead? Tongue

Why don't we just create a special commission for that made by Smurfs that decide those bodies for us? I mean, I don't know if micromanaging everything and writing thousands of extremely detailed bills will be interesting for this game and for our Senate. I'm saying that not because I don't think that details are important (I do) but because most Atlasians are not really worried with which are the NGOs that are going to receive the money.

What I would recommend instead is establishing some criteria for the selection of the NGOs but not specifying which one of them are going to receive the money. We shouldn't handle money for NGOs that are involved with Ukranian Politicians for example; we shouldn't handle money for NGOs that discriminate on the basis of race, religion and so on; we shouldn't handle money for NGOs that are associated with the revolutionary folks of Donetsk. Those are the things that we ought to be worried, more than selecting the NGOs which should receive that money...
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2014, 07:06:25 AM »

This is just an absurd. We cannot require them to ban the "Right Sector". We can ask them not to include their leaders in government roles but we cannot ask them to destroy an organization.
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2014, 03:30:01 PM »

This is just an absurd. We cannot require them to ban the "Right Sector". We can ask them not to include their leaders in government roles but we cannot ask them to destroy an organization.

We did it during the Cold War, as a condition of Marshall Plan aid.

I'm not in the Cold War anymore....
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2014, 10:18:02 PM »

Nay. Tongue
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