My 2014 GOP Dream Team

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McCollum's finished. He paid $120,000 in state funds to bring in a nutjob psychologist to testify as the state's star witness (one of only two witnesses) to talk about how gay parents=15-yr-old parents=90-yr-old parents=Thai parents=blind/deaf parents=pedophilic parents=criminal parents=drug-dealing parents=unemployed parents=anarchistic parents=terrorist parents=promiscuous unmarried parents. He also talked about how native Americans were unfit to raise children. This was the same guy who hired a gay prostitute for a 10-day European vacation.

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McCollum's finished. He paid $120,000 in state funds to bring in a nutjob psychologist to testify as the state's star witness (one of only two witnesses) to talk about how gay parents=15-yr-old parents=90-yr-old parents=Thai parents=blind/deaf parents=pedophilic parents=criminal parents=drug-dealing parents=unemployed parents=anarchistic parents=terrorist parents=promiscuous unmarried parents. He also talked about how native Americans were unfit to raise children. This was the same guy who hired a gay prostitute for a 10-day European vacation.

What!?!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Alan_Rekers#.22Rent_boy.22_allegations The guy was the psychologist who hired someone from 'Rentboy.com' to act as his personal masseuse.

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MI: Pete Hoekstra (But only if Levin retires)

>Rails against Democrats as being the "racist, slavery" party.
>Top pick for Senate is a racist.

Pete Hoekstra is not a racist.  He just got bad advice from his media team by running an ad that was considered racist.

He's a man who ran a blatantly racist ad. If that doesn't make him a racist, can't that discount basically any other candidate who did something the same or smaller (for instance, if I recall correctly it was you calling Jim Webb an anti-Semite for a campaign brochure)?

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MI: Pete Hoekstra (But only if Levin retires)

>Rails against Democrats as being the "racist, slavery" party.
>Top pick for Senate is a racist.

Pete Hoekstra is not a racist.  He just got bad advice from his media team by running an ad that was considered racist.

He's a man who ran a blatantly racist ad. If that doesn't make him a racist, can't that discount basically any other candidate who did something the same or smaller (for instance, if I recall correctly it was you calling Jim Webb an anti-Semite for a campaign brochure)?

But Jim Webb is a Democrat, and that makes him a racist you see.

Again, it was his ad team that made an anti-Semitic flyer.  Getting bad advice from your media team by running a racist ad is not the same as being racist yourself.  Hoekstra may have gone along with it, but the primary responsibility for that ad lies with his media consultants.

So there's no reason to bring it up at all, since it's only his ad team?

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Why are we still arguing with Oldies?  He's an idiot and a hack who will make any excuse he can for Republicans while simultaneously calling Democrats racist whenever possible.

I've never said that Democrats of today are racist.  But their history of racism is long and well-documented.  An Republicans have certainly had their civil rights failings, just as Democrats have had pleny of civil rights triumphs.  But the fact remains thay it was largely Republicans who fought for civil rights and Democrats who fought against it.

Nobody's arguing that that's not true. The real question (that you've failed to answer) is why does it matter?

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Why are we still arguing with Oldies?  He's an idiot and a hack who will make any excuse he can for Republicans while simultaneously calling Democrats racist whenever possible.

I've never said that Democrats of today are racist.  But their history of racism is long and well-documented.  An Republicans have certainly had their civil rights failings, just as Democrats have had pleny of civil rights triumphs.  But the fact remains thay it was largely Republicans who fought for civil rights and Democrats who fought against it.

Nobody's arguing that that's not true. The real question (that you've failed to answer) is why does it matter?

Nobody on here is arguing that it's not true, but plenty of Democrat leaders have tried to pin it all on Republicans.  And as for why it matters: if you knew that Democrats supported slavery and segregation, would that make you want to support the Democratic Party, no matter how long ago it was?  If Republicans had done those things, no matter how long ago it was and how many of those people were dead, the mainstream media would hawk about it 24/7 as a reason not to vote Republican.

I know that, and it's not something that makes me want to support the Democrats, but there are a variety of other factors that are more important than that. Why should I base my vote off of stuff done by people who are dead or otherwise out of power rather than other issues?

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Also, consider this:

http://www.newser.com/story/148669/david-duke-endorses-black-politician.html

http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/06/david-duke-endorses-charles-barron-126973.html

Supporting a guy because you are both anti-semites is nothing like endorsing a civil rights leader like Jesse Jackson. Again, Hollings had a ton of choices in the 88 primary, most of which would have been better for him in a self-interested, political mindset. But he chose to endorse not just a black guy, but a black guy who had made his career advocating for civil rights for black people and is just about as strongly opposed to segregation and such laws as a person can possibly be.

Jesse Jackson has publicly admitted to spitting in white people's food.

So what you're saying, is that a guy who's racist against black people, endorsed a guy who's racist against white people, so the racism cancels out and the Democrats aren't racist?

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Actually, the Negro has been betrayed by both the Republican and the Democratic party. The Democrats have betrayed him by capitulating to the whims and caprices of the Southern Dixiecrats. The Republicans have betrayed him by capitulating to the blatant hypocrisy of reactionary right wing northern Republicans. And this coalition of southern Dixiecrats and right wing reactionary northern Republicans defeats every bill and every move towards liberal legislation in the area of civil rights.

In the past I always voted the Democratic ticket. I felt that Kennedy would make the best president. I never came out with an endorsement. My father did, but I never made one. Had President Kennedy lived, I would probably have endorsed him in 1964.