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Donerail
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« on: June 26, 2012, 01:23:39 PM »

Napoleon clearly won the election, and should be the next president. Tweed's challenge utterly lacks legitimacy and is tantamount to a coup.

Tantamount to? According to Edward Luttwak, "[a] coup consists of the infiltration of a small, but critical, segment of the state apparatus, which is then used to displace the government from its control of the remainder." The military/paramilitary is not necessary to a coup. Since the Supreme Court (a small, but critical, segment of the state apparatus) is controlled by Tweed voters, they can use that to displace the government (the rest of the government, including Napoleon) from control of the rest of it (such as the Presidency). It is a coup.
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Donerail
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 01:47:29 PM »

So when exactly did Tweed 'infiltrate' the state apparatus? When he travelled back in time to force the Senate at gunpoint to appoint the current Supreme Court? Or when he forced the Constitution Assembly to include the provisions that are now under discussion? There's no coup here, just a legitimately installed branch of the Federal Government exercising the powers it has been granted by the Constitution. By the way, your assumption that the SC is certain to rule in favour of Tweed says a lot about how much doubt there seems to be even in the minds of you and your allies about the legitimacy of Tweed's case.

Whatever the Supreme Court finds, it's going to be wholly in the right and the entire process will have been completely legitimate.

Quite simply all the SC justices voted for Tweed in the most recent election; one would assume they would vote for the person they supported. If you disagree, see Bush v. Gore. Validity of the case aside, the Justices would lean towards Tweed, simply because they supported him in the election.
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Donerail
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 02:51:42 PM »

Hey, Simfan, if the SC rules in favor of Twee, do you think it would be a good idea for the Northeast to secede from the rest of Atlasia?

Y'all aren't allowed to do that! Only the IDS is allowed to plot secession!
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