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AmericanNation
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« on: September 16, 2012, 10:10:23 AM »

It's weird how some Catholics are the new WASPs vs. Catholicism is the dominant religious 'affiliation' in the big city machines by far (atheism+agnostic might be in second, various "black churches" are often unaffiliated-independent, thus hard to quantify). 

Has anyone read a good piece on these developments?   
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2012, 06:49:40 PM »

I pray Cuomo doesn't become the nominee.  He's about to contribute to environmental obliteration of upstate New York through fracking because he's a tool for the natural gas industry... I don't even want to imagine him with executive federal power.

I'm shocked and angered that he considers himself a Democrat.

Considering I live in the "red zone" of where he's likely to have fracking, and the amount of liberals here who are vehemently opposed to it - if he goes forward with fracking, I'm fairly confident that as far as gubernatorial elections in NY go - the Greens will have the best showing they've ever had in that election in this state.  That's unless he has an anti-fracking primary contender, which I also (considering the frustration I see) think would actually beat him, or at very least make it a run for his money.  A friend of mine is a hardcore Democrat up and down, someone I'd never anticipate voting any other party, much less third party, who told me he's voting Green next time because he simply can't vote Cuomo over the fracking issue.
What's the problem? fear of diminished water quality?
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 08:11:00 AM »

What's the problem? fear of diminished water quality?

An understatement, but yes.  As in, tap water that lights on fire and makes people physically ill, and ecosystems dying because they're being choked by natural gas.

There's no "safe fracking," and the PR company hired to make the argument that there is, is the exact same PR company the tobacco companies hired years ago to argue nicotine isn't addictive and cigarettes don't cause cancer.  The science shows they're wrong, but they have a pretty strong propaganda system in place at the moment to, unfortunately, cause enough doubt.

No, I haven't seen gasland.
What ecosystems? Like ponds or a small lake? 

It's interesting to see a 'relatively' dem area like upstate NY get completely trampled by the big city machine.  Personally I'd prefer to see drilling in ANWR, on the Atlantic/Pacific shelfs and harvest the oil shale in the unpopulated plain/mountain states before fracking in a populated area like upstate NY.  I mean providing/preventing the destruction of: a good water supply is an appropriate/ necessary(especially in the latter as 'preventing destruction' falls under protecting private property) role of government. 

In my hometown, they aren't allowed to use perfectly good (actually some of the best water on earth) water because the EPA arbitrarily bumped down the safe radon number from like 8 parts per billion to 4 parts per billion with zero evidence to support such a move.  So, in both cases you have democrats destroying water supplies... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMATBun0_hY beautiful. 
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AmericanNation
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 07:33:39 PM »

Somebody should tell JCL, although he might think it's the coming of the antichrist.
LOL, that was amazing.  He thought that if Ryan went to the Evangelical Lutheran church across the street from the Catholic church he went to it would somehow make a difference.  I just want to scream: "The treaty of Augsburg was signed in 1555!!  GET USED TO IT!!!"     
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