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« on: March 04, 2016, 06:21:59 PM »

I like how the anti-TRUMP trolls are trying to paint this as a bad thing.  Also love the Sandernistaesque idea that politicians should never change their views lol
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2016, 06:27:24 PM »

We're not saying it's a bad thing, this is a good thing if he is sincere about actually giving up an extreme-right position on an issue like this and moving into sensible territory. But on the other hand it makes him look like a flip-flopper much like Romney.

I don't really understand how being a "flip-flopper" is a bad thing.  I prefer my politicians to be responsive to the wishes of the general population and willing to admit when they are wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2016, 06:35:19 PM »

Because it shows you lack a core ideology if you drastically change your policy such as in the case of Trump here. It's fine if you admit you were wrong on something after doing the research and said research led you to conclude that your view was wrong and you're changing your view based on the factual evidence.

And what makes you think that TRUMP didn't conduct further research before changing his position?
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2016, 06:41:54 PM »

He did all that research in the span of less than 24 hours?

Or more likely he paid someone to do it for him.  Some adviser probably sent him a memo telling him why his views were in violation of international law, what the consequences would be, how the general electorate was receiving his position and he decided to respond accordingly.  Frankly, I for one am glad that my candidate doesn't support torture.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2016, 09:00:36 PM »

We're not saying it's a bad thing, this is a good thing if he is sincere about actually giving up an extreme-right position on an issue like this and moving into sensible territory. But on the other hand it makes him look like a flip-flopper much like Romney.

I don't really understand how being a "flip-flopper" is a bad thing.  I prefer my politicians to be responsive to the wishes of the general population and willing to admit when they are wrong.

This is not a case of a politician being "responsive to the wishes of the general public."
This is a case of trump being stupid and naïve to national and international law.
He finally realizes this and says "Oops, I'm an idiot. So I better change my policy stance on this issue quickly."

Yes he did research and reversed his position.  I'm still not sure how this is supposed to be a bad thing.
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2016, 09:55:52 AM »

As it seems to be, TRUMP is longer in favor of waterboarding. Good move, Donald. That was one position, where I strongly disageed with you.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/03/04/can-u-s-troops-ignore-unlawful-orders-joint-chiefs-asked-to-weigh-in-on-donald-trump/

Yeah, it was bad when dudeabides supported it and it was bad when TRUMP did.  Good move by TRUMP.
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