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HagridOfTheDeep
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« on: March 31, 2014, 01:10:19 PM »

Call me when the other 500+ Pokémon are included too.

Ew.
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HagridOfTheDeep
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 01:15:14 PM »

Lol, this one is hilarious:

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HagridOfTheDeep
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 02:15:51 PM »

Also, I wouldn't say these people are hipsters... at least not in the "coffee shop" type of sense. These are the basement dwellers who go on Omegle dressed as Japanese anime fairies to talk with their "con" friends over the internet because they don't have any real ones.
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HagridOfTheDeep
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 03:16:09 PM »
« Edited: March 31, 2014, 03:20:30 PM by HagridOfTheDeep »

Also, I wouldn't say these people are hipsters... at least not in the "coffee shop" type of sense. These are the basement dwellers who go on Omegle dressed as Japanese anime fairies to talk with their "con" friends over the internet because they don't have any real ones.

This statement is so wrong in so many ways it's kind of perversely beautiful.

I have a large contingent of people who look exactly like these people come to my parents' house every year during Anime North. I'm sorry that you think I'm wrong, but I'm not.

There's a difference between this...



and this...





The first is an authentic hipster. The second is a scene kid stuck in the middle. These are the types of people who go to conventions. They look a bit hipstery, sure, but there are differences. The bold colours, slightly-baggier-than-hipster pants, and hoodies give it away.

This guy, for example, looks like he could be a traditional coffee-shop hipster because of his beanie and cardigan, but the clothes are much too loose fitting to be particularly fashion-forward. He's an animaniac:




The only folks I see in the original post that might be real hipsters are these guys:

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HagridOfTheDeep
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 03:30:37 PM »

Lecturing me on the finer points of "hipster vs. scene kid" and "fashion forward" is a pretty spectacular example of missing the point, Hagrid.

If your point was that I'm also a basement-dweller by virtue of being here, I don't deny it. But I like to think being here and discussing issues is a bit more relevant than dressing up as Goku.

And my post was not for you specifically... more of a "service to the forum." Tongue I know hipsters... they don't go to events where people also dress up as Ash Ketchum.
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HagridOfTheDeep
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 03:41:44 PM »

Fair enough... I would still call them scene kids and say that you are short on real hipsters, but getting into it apparently hasn't made me many friends. Tongue Or all of us are letting a few trees define the forest and this is really just what young people as a collective look like.
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HagridOfTheDeep
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2014, 06:44:25 PM »

Lecturing me on the finer points of "hipster vs. scene kid" and "fashion forward" is a pretty spectacular example of missing the point, Hagrid.

If your point was that I'm also a basement-dweller by virtue of being here, I don't deny it. But I like to think being here and discussing issues is a bit more relevant than dressing up as Goku.

And my post was not for you specifically... more of a "service to the forum." Tongue I know hipsters... they don't go to events where people also dress up as Ash Ketchum.

That's... still not my point.

I know both hipsters and people who go to those sorts of events, and, well...
1) there actually is kinda some overlap
2) but the stereotypical con-goer, at least in the public imagination, doesn't really look like the people in those pictures
3) but your stereotypical hipster is a lot closer to that, or at least to the more colorful examples as many of the people in those pics seem pretty normal and un-distinctive to me
4) but of course the universe of people who are con-goers, as well as the universe of hipsters (of course, how do you define "hipster" anyway?), are far wider than the stereotypes and it's obviously quite wrong to just try and identify them based on appearance alone
5) the biggest point: this whole "real hipsters are all uber-fashionistas and if your pants aren't skinny enough you get kicked out of the club" thing, as well as "people who go to cons are basement dwellers who don't have any REAL FRIENDS" is not merely false, but lazy and ugly stereotyping that I really didn't expect from you.  

I hope you begin to get the picture.

So basically it's he-said-she-said and me being "so wrong" is just as self-assured as my own statement. We're both professing to have the authority to define "hipster," so I don't get why you're so angry. My comment about basement-dwelling was kind of uncalled for, but I sort of jumped the gun with it because off of here, "cons" and anime are a running joke with me and my sister; I take on the "old curmudgeon" role.

It's interesting, though, because you say being a hipster is about more than how one looks. To me, "hipsterism" is basically a fashion style; anyone  can go to the coffee shop or play a guitar, but that's not what makes someone like my dad a hipster. If we're just judging people by how they look (as we are from the original pictures), I think it's fair to talk about whether or not these particular people are hipsters. You say I'm defining who can and cannot be part of the "club," but my narrow definition is just as assuming as you and BRTD's insistence that all these people are hipsters. All of us are generalizing, so I'm not gonna sit here and take criticism for engaging in the thread. I don't think these are hipsters and I don't think Pokémon is a "hipster" thing... to me, it's not at all surprising that these are the types of people going to a Pokémon exhibition. Dunno why we're getting so sensitive.
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