2004 Senate campaign predictions

[DarthKosh]

Well, if there were irregularities, then Thune should have demanded a recount. I utterly fail to see how he is putting the state ahead of himself, or doing what's best for the state, by not demanding a recount. If the election was stolen, it's a lot worse for the state to allow that to occur than it is to demand a recount. Same thing with Nixon in 1960, that argument just doesn't make any sense at all when you think about it, and because of this I'm inclined to think that it is just cover for someone who wants people to believe that he was cheated when he really wasn't. If Thune had demand a recount and lost, he would have looked like a sore loser and then he wouldn't be able to rile up the party base with the whole "we was robbed" argument.
Just because that one county reported late for Johnson is not enough evidence directly of a conspiracy. Was the vote total way out of line with what would otherwise have been expected, given past election results there? As for allegations of fraud before the election, are there specific allegations of who, what, when, where, and how it happened?
I don't profess to be an expert at all on what went on in South Dakota, but given the fact that the GOP controls the state government and the federal justice department, they should have launched an investigation if they felt that they were cheated.

If you tried to say there was voter fraud on the reservations you would have been brandded a racist period.  Thune is the rightful holder of that seat.

[DarthKosh]

If all you Republicans think that Thune was cheated out of the Senate, would you agree that so was Cleland?

No Clelands record is what lost him the seat.

[DarthKosh]

If all you Republicans think that Thune was cheated out of the Senate, would you agree that so was Cleland?

Cleland ran a horrible race.  Thune lost because of voter fraud.

[DarthKosh]

So will Kat Harris run in Fl or Gary Hart in CO?  seems to be the buzz lately in senate news.

What fun it will all be!!

I can already imagine all the democratic wailing about Katherine Harris and election 2000 and boo hoo hoo.  In fact, I think if democrats bitch about election 2000 too much, they may hurt their chances of defending that seat from republicans.  The voters may see the dems as being stuck in the past while the GOP is trying to move forward.

As for Hart, I predict he will meet the same fate as Mondale in 2002 presuming that he runs against Campbell.

Harris will not even come close to winning in Florida.

[DarthKosh]

The whole issue of Thune losing due to voter fraud is complete BS. RNC chairman Ed Gillespie was even asked about the allegations on CNN's Inside Politics, and he said that Thune didn't challenge the results and thus Gillespie would assume that Thune himself knew best what happened there. The state is otherwise completely controlled by the GOP politically and thus you would have had no problems getting an investigation and getting people thrown in prison if it were true. That's just a complete lie. Even the GOP establishment admits the election wasn't stolen.

Please dead indians were voting on the reservations.

[DarthKosh]

Well, the same standards apply to Democrats trying to accuse the Republicans of fraud in Florida. Plus, I don't ever recall anyone charging anything as serious as dead people voting in Florida, or anything like that.

I don't believe that there was election fraud in Florida, but I do believe that Gore was the rightful winner of the state. I don't think that anyone tampered with any ballots or that there were any attempts to otherwise doctor the totals, but I do believe that votes that were cast legitimately were not counted. That's a bit less serious charge than what is being charged in South Dakota, though.

Gore didn't win and there was massive fraud on the resevations.

[DarthKosh]

Wow, DarthKosh, the depth of logical analysis of your posts on this topic is simply astounding.

Maybe, if you just keep repeating it often enough without offering any proof whatsoever, people will start to believe you.

The woman in charge of absentee ballots had ballots filled out and partiall burned in her fireplace.  The rub with those was that they were all in her handwritting.

[DarthKosh]

I don't think Knowles will be as tough as a challenger as everybody assumes he will be.  The only reason he was every Governor of Alaska was because of third party spoilers stealing votes from the republican candidate.  He never got a majority of the vote.  Plus, he's against drilling in ANWR whereas Murkowski favors it.  Alaskans are very supportive of drilling there.

He got barely 50% one with a weak GOP canidate and a strong third party canidate.

[DarthKosh]

I think it was that year he got 50%.

Plus I think one of the years the GOP withdrew its support for its candidate for some reason vs Knowles.

I don't think Knowles will be as tough as a challenger as everybody assumes he will be.  The only reason he was every Governor of Alaska was because of third party spoilers stealing votes from the republican candidate.  He never got a majority of the vote.  Plus, he's against drilling in ANWR whereas Murkowski favors it.  Alaskans are very supportive of drilling there.

He got barely 50% one with a weak GOP canidate and a strong third party canidate.