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« on: March 22, 2016, 12:29:54 PM »

So I'll be attending the Utah Democratic caucus tonight. I plan to vote for Sanders, despite supporting Clinton in the overall primary. If I can do some sort of write-in, I might.
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016, 12:44:58 PM »

So I'll be attending the Utah Democratic caucus tonight. I plan to vote for Sanders, despite supporting Clinton in the overall primary. If I can do some sort of write-in, I might.

Wait... what?

I support Clinton overall in the primary, as I feel she's more electable. However, I support Sanders in my own state's primary/caucus, as I feel that Utah progressives should be heard, and we should be encouraged to be braver on the issues. However, I also am not a huge fan of Clinton or Sanders due to their many weaknesses, and if I can write-in a different Democrat to show my displeasure with the lack of options (for example Elizabeth Warren), I might. It looks like Sanders will win the caucus in any case.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2016, 01:53:44 PM »


Probably not, but I vote how I vote. I intend to vote Bernie (assuming write-in isn't available, which it hasn't been in prior midterm caucuses), in my state's caucus and Hillary in the general, assuming Hillary gets the nomination. I want to make a point by voting for the more lefty option in the primary, but I am perfectly happy with what I see as the more electable candidate winning the primary and hopefully the general.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2016, 06:27:45 PM »

If you vote for Sanders you support Sanders, but okay.

I support both and neither, if that makes sense. I recognize that Hillary is the most electable candidate, and that she's basically already won the primary. But I prefer Sanders in terms of policy, and I want to use my vote to make the point that liberalism in Utah is not dead. In fact, Hillary being de facto the winner in the overall primary already helps my decision, since there's nothing to lose if Utah votes Sanders. I would prefer Sanders to win the Utah primary, but I would prefer Hillary to win enough delegates to be the nominee.

But I'm not that enthused about either candidate, to be honest.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 11:39:57 PM »

Democrats need to have another big conference or something to reform the primary process. The crap we are dealing with tonight is utterly unacceptable.

And UT was a primary in 2008. I don't know why they would choose an undemocratic process over a primary.

The Utah Democrats didn't have enough money to run a presidential primary this time.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2016, 12:00:57 AM »

From Twitter: A pic from Utah Democratic Party headquarters:


Salute to my political brothers and sisters.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2016, 02:14:14 AM »

The error in the Dan Jones poll in ID (Sanders +2 vs Sanders +57) is almost as large as the Mason-Dixon poll (Clinton +34 vs Sanders +23) in MN. How are they even getting these 50+ point polling errors?

crap like this SHOULD be the nail in the coffin for these garbage pollsters, but alas they'll still putting out garbage in the future,

To be fair, Dan Jones is the only Utah-based pollster, so they're not going to go out of business anytime soon.
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