UT-Utah Policy Poll: Trump leads Clinton 33-28, 33 "other". Trails other GOP (user search)
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« on: January 14, 2016, 11:45:55 AM »

http://utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/today-at-utah-policy/8214-poll-trump-barely-beats-clinton-head-to-head-in-utah

Trump 33%
Clinton 28%
Undecided 33%

Rubio 48%
Clinton 21%
Undecided 25%

Bush 47%
Clinton 22%
Undecided 27%

Carson 52%
Clinton 23%
Undecided 21%
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2016, 12:27:00 PM »

Trump is so bad for this state. He'll still win though. Mia Love should probably be worried, though.

Honestly, if Trump is the nominee, Mia Love will lose. With how much of a partisan footsoldier she is, how divisive she is herself, and how energized Doug Owens supporters will be, she'll have a really hard time holding on.

And yeah, Trump will win the state, though probably not by 72% to 25% like Romney did. I'm guessing something like 68-29, possibly 65-35 if Trump utterly sinks himself.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 01:41:09 PM »

I predict a weak performance (by the usual standards for a Republican) in Utah should he be the GOP nominee -- and that is before I even mention what the LDS hierarchy will say about him. I would not be surprised to find the LDS hierarchy sending an "I'll show you!" message to a practitioner of multiple divorces and an owner of gambling casinos, both of which are contrary to Mormonism.

Even lackluster support for a Republican nominee by Mormons could put Arizona in play. The message will be clear: offend LDS sensibilities in a personal life, and lose.

Sanders would be interesting. Whether the "true Jews" as Mormons call themselves could vote for a Jew might be an interesting proposition.  

It's more that Mormons are fairly pro-immigrant, and Trump's rhetoric against immigrants (and Muslims, for that matter) has been condemned by the LDS Church, as they feel it's similar to the rhetoric said when people were kicking the Mormons out of Missouri and Illinois.

Plus, Mormon voters don't tend to like obnoxious braggarts. It's less about Trump's personal life (I don't think most Mormons are aware about it or care), or the casinos, and more his braggart attitudes and anti-immigrant sentiment is disturbing to Mormons.

As for Sanders, most Mormons are not aware that he's Jewish, and considering his avowed socialism, I don't think him being Jewish will move the numbers in Utah one way or another. Mormons like Jews (though Jews don't like us), but Bernie's policy ideas are disturbing to the mainly conservative Mormons. Mormons consider themselves "of the House of Israel", which we also include modern Jews in.


Yes. We like polite, boring pols. I can't think of a single Utah politician with charisma.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 11:53:02 PM »

Mormons don't like Trump.

This is purely anecdotal, of course, but my Mormon friends seem to really like Ben Carson, for some reason, even though Carson almost certainly believes that they're heathens and unbelievers.

Well, there's cultural similarities as Averroes has said, plus Ben Carson is the most soft-spoken Republican running, and that appeals to soft-spoken/passive-aggressive Mormons.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2016, 02:22:54 AM »

Uh, Lief already explained why Mormen support Rubio. It's not because lisping Marco sounds "authoritative" or "calm" or whatever nonsense MormDem said. It's because Rubio is a closet Morman and represents their latest craven bid at fulfilling the White Horse Prophecy.

Dude, don't try to tell actual Mormons that you know how Mormons think better than they do.

Also what's with the misspellings of "Mormon"? It's not hard, there's two "O"s.
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