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Let me add here, the reply I just made there.

TV is what matters in Venezuelan and its dominated by very Conservative capital interests and are highly critical towards Chavez.

About the TV market situation:

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/publications/reports/who-dominates-the-media-in-venezuela  

So you think the yanking of RCTV's broadcast license by Chavez for opposing him means that there is a dominant opposition media that is free from the threat of similar reprisals?  Thanks for giving me another laugh.

Lets continue this discussion in the relevant thread and try to be less condescending in your replies, I am sure I know more about this subject than you do.

[politicus]

Also, to you and other 16-year old kids on the forum/the internet who like politics: please stop acting as if you're 60-year old boring congressmen.

I think Hash simply missed Jerrys irony.

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Obviously I don't agree with everything in this post, but the bolded part is quite dead and what I'm submitting here.

For those not in the know, the English Defence League are largely a group of football hooligans and working class racists who claim to oppose radical Islam, and demonstrate peacefully against it. However, these demonstrations tend to become violent, much like football hooliganism, and attacking all Muslims, not just radical Muslims.

HI for me, I'm proud of my country, and would also be proud of the UK if I lived there, but groups like the EDL take their love way too far, and turn patriotism into ugly, ethnic/religious nationalism.

putting aside the barely concealed class snobbery there's nothing inherently ugly about "ethnic/religious nationalism." zionism is "ethnic/religious nationalism" for example, do you oppose that? somehow i doubt you do. they certainly don't. oy vey!

to me the sort of 'patriotism' you speak of is ugly. 'patriotism' (by which i mean 'civic nationalism') at its core is totally superficial and basically everything the post-60s left straw mans nationalism as being. it has no basis other than ideology and essentially state worship. it is idolatry towards pieces of cloth and paper. a few arbitrary lines on a map and 'the constitution/charter/whatever' are not enough as the basis for a nation. you need borders, language and culture. the edl has some real cretins in its ranks and ideological issues but it at least understands that. it at least genuinely respects that. so i'd take your average edl symp any day over the 'respectable conservatives.' hell you supported virgil goode, i shouldn't be explaining this to you. have some consistency at least.

knowing you i'm kind of surprised you didn't bold the parts in red too. that's something i at least have some respect for a lot of the less mainstream left on. they are at least consistent in their anti-nationalism (nationalism is always bad, therefore zionism is bad), unlike gutless 'respectable conservatives' or certain hypocrites on the far-right (e.g. many 'white nationalists'.. god i hate that term).

Those types are generally positive towards Palestinian nationalism tough, so I wouldnt call them consistent.